chip leader in a $55 Party rebuy, confusing top pair hand

billyjex · #1 06-28-2005, 05:09 AM

hey guys,

this just happened in a Party $55 rebuy. 40 left out of 120, I'm chip leader w/ 16k. Main villian in this hand has 12k. I haven't really been paying attention to him and have no read (he hasn't been at my table long.) Blinds are 150/300.

I am dealt KJo in MP2. Folded to me, I raise to 800. Villian calls on the SB.

Two to the flop of 1900. Flop is K 4 2r.

He checks, I bet 1200. He calls.

Turn is a Q. What is my action and how should I proceed in the rest of the hand?

Bigdaddydvo · #2 06-28-2005, 06:47 AM

Rainbow flop + a call = no draw. He has something here. Could even be TPWK. I like a check behind and calling a reasonable river bet.

Sluss · #3 06-28-2005, 06:58 AM

Obviously, your responding to his play. I think that his flop call is to just see if your firing a continuation bet and you have the stones to fire a second barrel.

1. He checks again I'm firing out about 2500 bet, if he calls that I'm probably checking behind on the river.

2. Small bet (>2000) I'll reraise to about the size of the pot.

3. If he pushes I muck

sekrah · #4 06-28-2005, 07:25 AM

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Obviously, your responding to his play. I think that his flop call is to just see if your firing a continuation bet and you have the stones to fire a second barrel.

1. He checks again I'm firing out about 2500 bet, if he calls that I'm probably checking behind on the river.

2. Small bet (>2000) I'll reraise to about the size of the pot.

3. If he pushes I muck

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That's a gutsy analysis.. I'm thinking K-Q here.

Sluss · #5 06-28-2005, 08:02 AM

You have the chip lead aggression is your friend. These are the types of hands that are the real stack builders. When another big stack tries to test you. Plus, if you get yourself in too much trouble here you can get away and still have a pretty workable stack. That's why you build up chips early, to use them in the middle stages. Smack this guy down and just keep running away.

billyjex · #6 06-28-2005, 07:18 AM

I check the turn.

Villian fires 4700 on the river, another Q. (pot is 4300.) Easy fold?

sekrah · #7 06-28-2005, 07:27 AM

Yep..

Personally, I duno why you got into this hand with K-J in early position?

What is your read of this guy? Is he tight or a maniac?

Sluss · #8 06-28-2005, 07:49 AM

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Villian fires 4700 on the river, another Q. (pot is 4300.) Easy fold?

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I would probably fold. The only thing is unless he flopped a set here what do you put him on with a check call check overbet? Just seems really fishy. If that queen really helped wouldn't he have bet the turn? With no read I would have to muck, but I would watch to see if this pattern shows up again.

Sam T. · #9 06-28-2005, 08:07 AM

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I check the turn.

Villian fires 4700 on the river, another Q. (pot is 4300.) Easy fold?

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I think it's a fold. In situations like this I ask myself, "Could he be making this play with a hand that I beat?" In this case, do you really believe he's calling your preflop raise and then betting this way with KT or worse? Or with TT? (Actually the Tens sounds possible, but if so he's got nerves of freakin' steal and it's still a fold.)

Sam

BoneCollector · #10 06-28-2005, 01:21 PM

I would make a bet of about half the pot on the turn. Any check raise would require a fold. If you continue with the lead here, you can prob get a free showdown. With no reads here, you can assume he would try and sell the hand if he knew he had the lock on the river, but your turn check showed weakness, so this may be a steal attempt.

Bottom line is you made an aggressive play with a marginal hand, and these things always result in difficult decisions.
Fold and save the chips for a better hand.