Live 1-2 $317 pot... critique wanted

Warder · #1 06-12-2005, 02:05 AM

Here is exactly how the hand went down and all the information leading up to it.

Villian in this hand is extremely loose preflop and is a calling station. Max buy in is $100 and he had to rebuy 4x in his first 25 minutes at the table. After this he's caught runner runner on the past 4 hands and now has about $600 sitting in front of him. I have $151.

I get dealt 7h 4h in the SB. 5 Limpers, I complete and BB checks. (Pot $14)

Flop: 7c Th 4d
I check the flop since there has been a bet on the flop every hand since i've been at the table. MP1 bets $5, Villain raises to $15 and I checkraise to $45 total. MP1 folds, and villain calls $30 more. Everybody else folded
(Pot $109)

Turn: Ac
It's on me and I'm 99% sure that i'm ahead here, putting him on a weak ace or a ten with a moderate kicker. I decide to make a milking bet here for $50. My reasoning is that the player has folded to a large bet that threatens a good portion of his stack every time he's been faced with one. Pushing here would be a gauranteed fold and I'm looking to extract as many chips as I can. This leaves me with $54 dollars left, so if I've made a correct read then implied odds don't help here. After a long delay he elects to call. Pot ($209)

River: 2s
I push here for my remaining $54 and he calls.

(Final pot: $317)

captZEEbo1 · #2 06-12-2005, 02:27 AM

If he's a calling station, allin turn, so he can call with 56 or 89 or 86 or JT or who knows what.

If you ended up losing, that's b/c bottom two pair in a 5-way unraised pot is not that strong. By saying bottom two pair is not that strong, I mean you should try to end the hand quickly and not be making "milk bets" where you end up letting villain catch better two pair or straight and you pay off. Two pair is the ultimate sucker payoff hand IMO.

River: If villain has any concept of value bets (and would bet last 54 dollars with AT, for example, the river push is a given. If villian is a donk and would bluff last 54 dollars with a busted straight draw, a check might work.

Also, wrong forum.

Warder · #3 06-12-2005, 09:14 AM

Well like I said, it's a gauranteed fold if I push the turn, although I really think it's the only debatable line in the hand. If anybody is interested in the results then let me know

JackOfSpeed · #4 06-12-2005, 12:53 PM

Post the results. I'm guessing Ace 2?

Warder · #5 06-12-2005, 01:00 PM

A2 and I would have been able to sleep that night.... unfortunately he flipped over T2 and I almost had a heart attack.

JackOfSpeed · #6 06-12-2005, 01:03 PM

I don't get it...why is that so much more frustrating then his having A2??

Warder · #7 06-12-2005, 02:12 PM

Well isn't wasn't all that uncommon for people to come over the top of him since he usually had a very weak part of the flop. There was a decent chance his ace could have been good on the turn because I'd make a big raise like that with a strong 10 against him. The fact that he could call a 30 check raise knowing full he needs to hit an unlikely card just puzzles me. Of course if he does hit his card he's getting my money, but not having much money behind me doesn't pay him off for the risk.

flawless_victory · #8 06-12-2005, 04:15 PM

[ QUOTE ]
A2 and I would have been able to sleep that night.... unfortunately he flipped over T2 and I almost had a heart attack.

[/ QUOTE ]i know youre just learning how to play, but this is very easy hand reading 101. when a guy calls a CR on a T74r flop, A2 is prob not in his hand.