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Old 06-10-2005, 07:40 PM
elus2 elus2 is offline
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Default 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

Villain is 80/23 and postflop aggression factor of 2.95.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($152.7)
BB ($30.6)
UTG ($28.3)
Hero ($27.8)
Button ($19.3)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($4.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises all-in</font>...

Villain seems to like betting especially if he senses weakness. Anyone dislike the flop check?
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

Theres something you wrote in the title...

semi bluff vs. maniac

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can you guess why i don't think this is a smart play?
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

calling an all-in is different from betting.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

y raise? if u think ur ahead a simple call will cause him to check. unless he thinks ur on AK or AQ then he'll bet river again, and if u don't improve throw it away.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

well hes definitely only calling you with a better hand, and since hes a maniac, i doubt hes laying down the straight if he flopped it.

I also doubt hes going to lay down a set, your possibly making TPTK or top two lay down here.

too risky imo.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

since when will a call cause a maniac to check the river.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

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since when will a call cause a maniac to check the river.

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then revert to my last suggestion which is clearly throwing it away if you don't improve. why is that difficult to do?
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

when my push is called, i still have outs to the flush, outs to split, over card outs may be good, etc.

when i flat call i may lay down the winner on the river if i don't improve.

folding the turn versus his range of hands seems silly.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

because i will be calling 8 dollars into a 4 dollar pot.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: 25nl 6max turn semi bluff vs. maniac

results? my guess is you lost vs QT
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