QQ turn decision

sweetjazz · #1 06-11-2005, 01:38 AM

Reads: both villains are about 35/8/1 players. BB 3-bet me preflop with KQo the previous orbit, if that is at all relevant.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO raises, Hero ...

mantasm · #2 06-11-2005, 01:39 AM

i can't see doing anything other than folding the turn.

TheDelChop · #3 06-11-2005, 01:46 AM

Easiest. Fold. Ever.

sweetjazz · #4 06-11-2005, 01:54 AM

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Okay, good. I just want to make sure I'm not turning in a weak tightie. I just couldn't see do anything else. I smiled when the board paired low on the river and K9s chopped with K8s. Mmmmmmm 3/6.

brettbrettr · #5 06-11-2005, 12:46 PM

Why didn't you 3-bet the flop?

DCWildcat · #6 06-11-2005, 01:05 PM

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sweetjazz · #7 06-11-2005, 01:12 PM

My intention was to go for a check-raise on the turn.

That play risks giving a free card to a diamond draw, though sometimes the LAG players don't even take the free card given the chance (preferring to continue their semi-bluff instead).

But I don't know if the risk is worth it to try to protect my hand against Ax or Kx. Maybe just raising 3-betting the flop for value is optimal here, given my lousy position.

bobhalford · #8 06-11-2005, 01:17 PM

Yes, I think 3-betting the flop is in order. Gives you information, and most likely you have the best hand. With your reads, I think a 3-bet is definitely a good play.