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Old 06-09-2005, 07:46 PM
invisibleleadsoup invisibleleadsoup is offline
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Default mid tournament hand-bid for a big stack

$7500 guaranteed on vc poker,$27 rebuy,160 runners,80 left,top twenty seven get payed but i'm playing for at least the final table...
Seat 1 is a fairly wild player who can be reckless with a big stack...he's chip leader for the whole tournament
results in white except for the suits which i couldnt figure out how to hide...
comments on all streets appreciated,and even if you think i should have folded preflop i'd appreciate comments on my postflop play also...

Hand Start.
Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Level up in: 2 min. Break in: 38 min. Players : 80
Seat 1 has $34,370
Seat 2 has $19,800
Seat 3 has $7,650
Seat 5 has $8,290
Seat 6 has $5,420
Seat 7 has $4,000
Seat 8 has $3,630
Seat 9 (HERO) has $13,630
HERO is the dealer.
seat 1 posted small blind.
seat 2 posted big blind.


Seat 9 : HERO has Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Seat 5 called 300
Seat 6 called 300 and raised 300
HERO called 600
Seat 1 called 450

Seat 5 called 300

Board cards [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Seat 1 checked.

Seat 5 checked.
Seat 6 bet 1,200
HERO called 1,200 and raised 4,800
Seat 1 called 6,000 and raised 27,770 and is All-in
Seat 5 folded.
Seat 6 called 3,620 and is All-in
HERO called 7,030 and is All-in
Showdown!
<font color="white"> HERO has Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Seat 1 has 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Seat 6 has 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Seat 9 HERO has Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Board cards [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Seat 1 has 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Seat 1 has Straight T9876
Seat 9 HERO has Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
HERO has Pair: 10s
Seat 1 wins 16,420 with Straight T9876
Seat 1 l has 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Seat 6 has 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Seat 6 has 3 of a Kind: 7s
Seat 9 HERO has Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
HERO has Pair: 10s
Seat 1 wins with Sraight T9876 </font>
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:47 AM
invisibleleadsoup invisibleleadsoup is offline
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Default Re: mid tournament hand-bid for a big stack

bump
anyone?
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:27 AM
AlcateL AlcateL is offline
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Default Re: mid tournament hand-bid for a big stack

VC rebuys are very very very loose. (from my experience and I've won about half a dozen)
Fold your flush draw don't reraise the flop.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:28 AM
AlcateL AlcateL is offline
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Default Re: mid tournament hand-bid for a big stack

Especially since you said he could be very reckless so whats the WORST he could do this with? Ax ok so you're 50/50, thats no good. Otherwise he could have a higher flush draw or a pair and thats no good either.

I think you have very little fold equity here, a normal player (no descriptions) and a reckless player, you're not going to get folds often and you're not getting anywhere near good value on your flush draw to warrant being all in.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:30 AM
AlcateL AlcateL is offline
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Default Re: mid tournament hand-bid for a big stack

Considering the normal player bet into the pot in the first place.

Take a risk for a big stack when you've got odds to do so, really didn't have them here.
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:06 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: mid tournament hand-bid for a big stack

Interesting hand.

I don't like your bump on the flop. Given the miniraise, and a probe bet (T1200 into a pot of T2700), I think seat 6 has at least a big pair. In which case its unlikely that your Q and T are real outs, so I wouldn't raise. Also the raise of 1/2 your chips is going to leave you pot committed. Seat 6 is already pot committed.

After seat 1 pushes all ontop of two raises, he either has a hand or is wild with a flush draw (given your read). There are roughly ~45 hands (9X3=27 ways to get 2 pair, and 3X6 ways to get sets) and ~21 draws (7 hearts left) with ~1/2 of them having A or K (12). This gives you between 8 and zero outs with an average of about 6 (eyeballing it). When seat 6 calls I think your done with the hand.

As it turned out seat 1 needed runner runner to win and was only 3% to win the hand. You had 5 outs.




Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

903 games 0.078 secs 11,576 games/sec

Board: 7h 2h 6c
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 03.6545 % [ 00.04 00.00 ] { 8h6h }
Hand 2: 24.0310 % [ 00.24 00.00 ] { QhTh }
Hand 3: 72.3145 % [ 00.72 00.00 ] { 7d7c }
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