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Old 05-29-2005, 06:18 PM
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Assaulted from both the Left and the Right, that damn concept of free speech looks a bit wobbly on its legs and ready to fall.

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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Posters that depicted President Bush with a Groucho Marx-style mustache and cigar were ordered torn down at a high school after a student complained.
The posters advertised the students' play, "The Complete History of America (Abridged)," which satirizes U.S. history.

Principal Kenny Lee ordered 100 posters removed from the campus of El Camino Real High School in the Woodland Hills area last week on grounds that they promoted smoking and "endorsing one ideology over another."

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Didn't the principal get the memo? Free speech is all about a person's right to publicly endorse one ideology over another.

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Old 05-29-2005, 06:45 PM
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Isnt there a line that needs to be drawn at the high school level and below? Would you allow the same freedom of expression at the high school that you would at the college level?
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:46 PM
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Didn't the principal get the memo? Free speech is all about a person's right to publicly endorse one ideology over another.

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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


It almost any high school, it's well within the Principle's rights and responsibilities to take actions which maintain a stable learning environment.

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Assaulted from both the Left and the Right, that damn concept of free speech looks a bit wobbly on its legs and ready to fall.

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Freedom of speech has never been stronger in America or the rest of the world. For basic anecdotal evidence, look at your computer monitor.
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:49 PM
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Isnt there a line that needs to be drawn at the high school level and below?

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It appears you missed a memo too. The sky is falling. All our freedoms are being taken away from us.

Ignore the real world where democracy and freedom is spreading in ways which governments can't possibly control (such as the internet tools being used by the doomsayers). Give into your paranoia and accept the hyperbole. Soon all your freedom will belong to us.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:16 PM
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Ignore the real world where democracy and freedom is spreading in ways which governments can't possibly control (such as the internet tools).

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Actually, that part is true! The internet and modern technology makes the inhibition of a free flow of ideas nearly impossible.

But guess which side wants to see information curtailed and the exchange heavily regulated. If you guessed "fundamentalist conservatives", you guessed Right. Pun intended. The folks in Riyadh and Washington are in the same bed there. (And note, please, folks, that a concentration of media ownership among oligopolies is equivalent to restriction of the free flow of ideas. Not everyone is plugged to the internet, yet.)

The suggestion that America is in favor of democracy period is quite laughable. America favors democratic regimes that support its policies - period. If it takes a dictator to get a friendly regime, so be it.
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:20 PM
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Ignore the real world where democracy and freedom is spreading in ways which governments can't possibly control (such as the internet tools).

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Actually, that part is true! The internet and modern technology makes the inhibition of a free flow of ideas nearly impossible.

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No, it doesn't. Check out North Korea and Myanmar.
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Old 05-30-2005, 12:47 AM
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever hoid . . .

Anything that familiarizes young people with Groucho Marx can't be bad. I would alllow the principle to have the posters removed, but only if he required Duck Soup to be shown in all American History classes.
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Old 05-30-2005, 01:16 AM
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The suggestion that America is in favor of democracy period is quite laughable. America favors democratic regimes that support its policies - period. If it takes a dictator to get a friendly regime, so be it.

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This is exactly correct.

If Bush and Saddam could have had a BBQ at Camp David and done an oil deal in 1990, we would have been best buddies, It actually could have been so.
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Old 05-30-2005, 03:10 AM
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--The internet and modern technology makes the inhibition of a free flow of ideas nearly impossible.

--No, it doesn't. Check out North Korea.

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Or South Korea. link
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:49 AM
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How's that Kool-Aid taste?
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