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Old 12-23-2002, 02:17 AM
Sooga Sooga is offline
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Default what to do against an open raise from the cutoff?

After playing in PP 0.5/1 games mostly, the change to 2/4 has had a few differences. First is that there is a lot more blind-stealing, players being a bit more aggressive preflop, etc. So, I had a few questions on what to do with the following hands when you're on the button with a 'solid' PP 2/4 player on the cutoff open-raising (just because he's raising doesn't mean he has a premium hand, since he's open raising from the cutoff.) What do you do with these hands:

Any A with a T or lower kicker, suited and unsuited
a K with a card 9 - Q, suited and unsuited
A Q with a T or J, suited and unsuited
9T suited
pairs below 99

I'm not sure of how to play these, any insight would be appreciated, thanks!
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Old 12-23-2002, 02:23 AM
Vehn Vehn is offline
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Default Re: what to do against an open raise from the cutoff?

Against a typical/decent opponent I 3-bet with:

AT or higher
A8s or higher
KTs or higher
KQ or higher
66 or higher

you want high card/pair power here. T9s is an easy fold unless you have excellent control over your opponent. Never call without QQ or better and usually not then.
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: what to do against an open raise from the cutoff?

I have been thinking about similar blind stealing/defending issues as well. When I moved up from the lower limits, I did not realize how much more I would find myself in these situations. Along with knowing with what hands to re-raise on the button, I am thinking about SB and BB play vs. a steal as well. I rwish I would have figured this stuff out sooner, but in low limit, it doesn't really come up.

I like Vehn's guidelines, however I might tighten up a just a bit against tough/tricky players. Also against some weak players, remember that a raise often really means a raise.

HEPAP and Middle-Limit Poker both give quite detailed standards in what to play in various steal defending situations. From what I have read, the best information on what to think about post-flop is Feeney's Inside the Poker Mind at 176-183. If anyone knows of anything else that I might find helpful, please let me know.
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