$10-$20 hand from the Borgata ...quess my opponents hands..

Mike Gallo · #1 05-30-2005, 10:27 AM

Hi everyone. I have not posted a hand in a while. I hope I get some responses on this hand.

I will post this hand a street at a time.

I founds this an interesting hands. I would like posters to attempt to quess my two opponents hands. I would also like feedback on all streets. I think all of the streets are debatable.

I played this hand at a fantastic $10-$20 game. I will give brief bios on the two main villians. I will call them player A and player B.

Player A claimed he plays regularly in "the city". However due to circumstances beyond his control he had to play in AC.I found his game a bit too tricky for his own good. He fell in love with his hands once he got to the turn and would call even in the face of defeat.

Player B played a bit over aggressively. He raised and reraised because of position. If a lot of players limped to him and he had late position, he would raise with a large range of hands.

On to the hand.

Player A open limped from +1 utg, 3 more limpers and action got to player B. Player B raised from 2 off the button. I looked down at J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and called from the button. The small blind folded the big blind called and the action got back to player A. Player A now reraised. The players between him and the original raiser all folded. Player B did a double take at his cards and called. I called as well. If anyone thinks I made a bad decision preflop, please share. $150 in the pot preflop.

Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Player A led out, player B raised, action to me what do I do?

JaysonWeberFCP · #2 05-30-2005, 10:38 AM

Well it's a huge range of hands right now..

Player A - A-x suited, Small PP or A-10 - Q-10

Player B - You said he did a re-take, I will admit to Limited Live game experience, but I've played enough to always knock out Pocket Pairs and Large Suited cards when players do this (unless they're showboating a bit, which you can ussually tell later in a hand, an AA or KK can only stay quite for so long) So... player B perhaps A-J or J-Q... Maybe even something like 9-10... It's real wide open right now.

WillMagic · #3 05-30-2005, 10:45 AM

3-bet as a free card play. You have about 30% pot equity almost regardless of what A and B are holding, so you won't lose money on the reraise because of a pot equity disadvantage, and you have a very reasonable shot at getting a free card on the turn.

Based on your descriptions of A and B each are going to have a pretty wide range of hands. On your flop decision....player A has maybe AK-AJ, ATs, KQs, KJs, AA-99. player B has AK-AT, KQ-KT, and AA-66.

I dunno, I could be wrong. But honestly, even if my range is off...I don't see how you can not three-bet this flop.

Will

TheDelChop · #4 05-30-2005, 10:46 AM

I would just call here, you don't wanna raise and end up heads up for a cap with only a draw when I'm sure there's at least one made hand out there already.

Just draw out on the bastards and I'm sure you can get in at least one raise when you spike an Ace giving you a straight and someone else at least two pair if not a set. Just make sure you read that section in SSH about making people miss their full house draws against your straights.

Mike Gallo · #5 05-30-2005, 11:03 AM

Based on your descriptions of A and B each are going to have a pretty wide range of hands. On your flop decision....player A has maybe AK-AJ, ATs, KQs, KJs, AA-99. player B has AK-AT, KQ-KT, and AA-66

Excellent reads on both players.

Mike Gallo · #6 05-30-2005, 12:43 PM

Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Player A led out, player B raised, action to me what do I do?

I reraised player A capped, we both called.

Turn 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Same action player A bet player B raised. Should I reraise again? I did not think the six improved anyones hand but mine.

Grease · #7 05-30-2005, 12:55 PM

Ok, you have 14/46 cards to make your hand (30.4%), but the interesting aspect (which probably is a very small percentage of the time) is player B. If player B in fact has a medium pocket pair and is trying to wrestle you out of the hand, and you think player A has has something like TPTK or along those lines AND would lay it down to your raise here (not probable since he capped the flop), then raising could be correct. On the other hand, I'm looking at this as "I have more than enough equity to continue, but I don't have enough to raise" almost every time. Player B rechecking his cards PF has me thinking, but I'm not sure if that's enough of a reason to raise here. You only have 3% less equity than you need to have raising and calling be equally correct. What does everyone else think here? Could you possibly pick up 6 more outs by cleaning up the J's and 10's if he has 77-88-99?

niko421 · #8 05-30-2005, 01:13 PM

At this point, I think you can narrow down some hands, Player A I believe has AK, KQ, or set, may AQ. Player be, I would give any PP, or KJ-K9. I think a cold call here is good, you will be able to help cap the river, when it is bet and raised, and you can re raise... especially if the 9c hits.

bakku · #9 05-30-2005, 01:57 PM

Hey Mike,

I'm cold calling the flop, I don't expect to be able to get a free card. Player A is going to have a monster here far too much for that.

Raising the turn is spewing since you're not going to win unless you hit your draw and your pair outs are no good.

WillMagic · #10 05-30-2005, 04:18 PM

Easy, easy call.

What is the point of raising? You definitely do not have a pot equity edge here. Nobody is folding.

Will