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Old 05-22-2005, 04:27 PM
ElAnimal ElAnimal is offline
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Default The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

BB is weak tight after 26 hands (15/4/1). MP3 is an idget (79/21/1.4). My raise preflop was a sorta-steal. I felt like I had the odds to draw, but now I'm not so sure. Would most of you fold this on the flop? Comments on all streets welcome. (Sorry to post back-to-back hands).

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (9.16 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (15.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, BB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 17.16 BB
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:33 PM
shadow29 shadow29 is offline
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

If I don't fold to the first flop bet, I certainly fold when it's another two back to me.

At best, you're hoping for a gutshot for a chop. Ugh. I have no clue how you saw the river, let alone the turn.
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:15 PM
damaniac damaniac is offline
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

15:2 on the flop, with 2 clubs, with a decent possibility of a chop. Plus you could get capped. You do have two overcards, but I don't know how much I like those now that you're getting 3-bet. I think a fold when it is two back is good.
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:18 PM
ElAnimal ElAnimal is offline
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

I think I agree with you. As it turns out I was drawing live to the Ace and the gutshot, but more often than not I won't be.
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

I'd fold on the turn. Gut shot odds are really not quite there, given that after the flop action, you'll almost certainly be paying more than a single bet to see the river.
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

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If I don't fold to the first flop bet, I certainly fold when it's another two back to me.

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Old 05-22-2005, 06:33 PM
Dariel86 Dariel86 is offline
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

I fold it on the flop, WITHOUT paying 3 bets [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

The first flop call is good. I would fold when it is two bets back. The turn is an easy fold.
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: The Weak, the Tight and the Stupid.

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The first flop call is good. I would fold when it is two bets back.

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