Raised when betting out TPTK

karitek · #1 05-18-2005, 02:17 PM

I feel like I've turned weak-tight recently, and I know I misplayed this hand somewhere. Please help!

The villan is a total fish - seeing half the flops and preflop raising only occastionally. He has an aggression factor of .82.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

>>I thought about reraising but I realized it probably wouldn't clear out the field anymore, and I'm giving him some credit since he hardly raises.

Turn: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

>>Should I have bet out the turn?

River: (7.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

J. Sawyer · #2 05-18-2005, 03:35 PM

If your not going to three-bet the flop and respect his raise then you need to fold that turn unimproved as you are no longer getting the odds for your five outs.

Stack · #3 05-18-2005, 04:01 PM

I 3bet the flop, bet the turn, and reevaluate

but who am I to give advice?? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

ckessel · #4 05-18-2005, 04:12 PM

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If your not going to three-bet the flop and respect his raise then you need to fold that turn unimproved as you are no longer getting the odds for your five outs.

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Why? If you've got a 70% chance of being behind, it's worth calling down as cheaply as possible. Your 30% flop equity is enough to want to see a showdown cheaply.

I'm pulling numbers out of the air, but the point is calling down isn't necessarily wrong. Especially out of position.

That said, I think I 3-bet the flop. If he caps I'm not sure what to make out of it since he limped preflop. I think I call then, fold the turn UI.

If he just calls, I bet the turn and fold to a raise, If he just checks the turn, I bet the river too (being out of position sucks...)

KDawgCometh · #5 05-18-2005, 04:13 PM

three bet the flop, you'll be happier when you do

adamstewart · #6 05-18-2005, 04:22 PM

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If your not going to three-bet the flop and respect his raise then you need to fold that turn unimproved as you are no longer getting the odds for your five outs.

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I know eh..... Hero is surely drawing dead to pocket Kings.

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adamstewart · #7 05-18-2005, 04:23 PM

3-bet the flop

lead the turn

Adam

karitek · #8 05-18-2005, 06:04 PM

Yeah, I definitely wish I 3-bet the flop. I think the hand would have played out cleaner if I had. The guy turned over QQ.

shant · #9 05-18-2005, 06:14 PM

There's really no reason to bet the river here. Only better hands are calling.

JoshuaD · #10 05-18-2005, 06:20 PM

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3-bet the flop

lead the turn

Adam

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Yea.

You need to post more Adam, your advice always seems to be dead on.