Hmmmm Bet the Turn?

toss · #1 05-17-2005, 03:48 PM

Just sat down.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets...

davelin · #2 05-17-2005, 03:50 PM

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Just sat down.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets...

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Why wouldn't bet the turn?

Quercus · #3 05-17-2005, 03:52 PM

The only thing that's changed from the flop is that there is only one K out there rather than two.

toss · #4 05-17-2005, 03:53 PM

I was thinking he would fold with a weaker hand and I could get him to bluff the river. But now that I think of it a lot of cards could come and beat me.

davelin · #5 05-17-2005, 03:55 PM

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I was thinking he would fold with a weaker hand and I could get him to bluff the river. But now that I think of it a lot of cards could come and beat me.

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He's possibly drawing like up to 6 outs against you so I would bet to get value and if he folds, so be it. A lot of people will call a bet with an Ace in this situation or any two cards hoping to hit one for the boat.

topspin · #6 05-17-2005, 03:57 PM

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I was thinking he would fold with a weaker hand and I could get him to bluff the river. But now that I think of it a lot of cards could come and beat me.

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Precisely why you need to bet. Not to mention that two clubs and sometimes an 8 or a smaller PP will pay you off anyways.

GrunchCan · #7 05-17-2005, 03:59 PM

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The only thing that's changed from the flop is that there is only one K out there rather than two.

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Actually, this does impact the hand. Now it is even less likely that the villan has a better hand.

I'll bet this turn - checking doesn't accomplish anything, and could put you in an uncomfortable spot on the river when the villan wakes up. Betting the turn is better. You can often fold to a checkraise, and if the opponent just calls you can check the river if the villan is very tricky.

Marquis · #8 05-17-2005, 04:04 PM

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I was thinking he would fold with a weaker hand and I could get him to bluff the river. But now that I think of it a lot of cards could come and beat me.

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That's quite a pickle you got yourself in by not betting the turn.

silkyslim · #9 05-17-2005, 04:19 PM

I would def bet the turn. for the reasons mentioned above. NOw if villian c/r'ed, i would want to just call down. If he called then bet the turn, id do the same. im not folding the river because he could easily have a flush or worse. but i dont want to raise it with that ace out there.

toss · #10 05-17-2005, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the help guys, I ended up folding this river. If only I had bet that turn...

Should I post another hand?