TT from MP2

tadams · #1 05-14-2005, 12:30 AM

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.70 BB

I guess my only question is how often does LP call the turn bet with something that I beat? I am getting 6.7 to 1 to call.

It's a loose game and a lot of players will call a MP2 raise with any pair, Ax, JTs, KQs, KJ, KJs, etc.

So do I check and call the river or check and fold and why?

I think I played the rest of the hand well?

Thanks for your comments.

shant · #2 05-14-2005, 12:32 AM

Why not bet and fold to a raise?

tadams · #3 05-14-2005, 01:02 AM

Good question. I guess I didn't bet out because I didn't get the feeling he was going to fold. So I was hoping for a free showdown if he had the best hand and for him to bet if he had the worst hand.

Klepton · #4 05-14-2005, 01:19 AM

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Why not bet and fold to a raise?

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he's gonna call with an Ace no matter what

the point of you checking is to induce a bluff, then call

if you were checking with the intention of folding, then do it, if you check to induce a bluff, call him

tadams · #5 05-14-2005, 01:24 AM

I honestly had no idea what he had. I thought we probably had an A. Cold call before the flop and all, but it was a loose game and he could have cold called with a small pair or any of the hands I mentioned. So it sounds like you agree that betting out is the best play.

Stack · #6 05-14-2005, 01:25 AM

I think check folding the river is very wrong unless you know he is passive.

I like your line against an unknown.

KDawgCometh · #7 05-14-2005, 01:33 AM

I think bet/folding the river might be our best option there. One would think that if they had trips they'd raise the turn.an Ace might raise the turn too.

mr pink · #8 05-14-2005, 01:42 AM

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I think check folding the river is very wrong unless you know he is passive.

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agreed. he'd also have to be extremely passive, lots of players sack it up and find a bluff in this spot.

shant · #9 05-14-2005, 06:13 AM

So wait, what do we agree is the best line here? I am very curious.

brazilio · #10 05-14-2005, 06:32 AM

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So wait, what do we agree is the best line here? I am very curious.

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I don't see a legitimate reason for a bet/fold, I check/call that river every time and induce a bluff from a mid pair.