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Old 05-12-2005, 10:24 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default c/r\'ed :(

i had just been moved to the table.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t5155)
MP1 (t32524)
MP2 (t3780)
Hero (t16751)
Button (t7782)
SB (t4815)
BB (t14717)
UTG (t3820)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1600</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t1000.

Flop: (t3500) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t5400</font>
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: c/r\'ed :(

interesting. I am inclined to flatcall and call a push on any turn the lacks a club. Rough spot w/o reads.
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:33 AM
RavenJackson RavenJackson is offline
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Default Re: c/r\'ed :(

Just noted that this is the second hand you posted where you play A9o. I suspect you are on a steal and if that is the case then fine.

I would have only put out a value bet on the flop, maybe 1/2 the pot and fold very quickly to a reraise. My guess is TT, 44 or an A with a much better kicker.
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:39 AM
rockythecat99 rockythecat99 is offline
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Default Re: c/r\'ed :(

If you have been stealing a lot it makes it easier to call. But BB just put in more than a third of his stack on a Ace high board after you bet into him. A set is unlikely as I think he wouldve reraised you preflop with something like AA-77. He either has an ace or belives you don't have it and is trying to make a stand, that is if you ahve been stealing a lot. Very tough decision without any reads like bug said.
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: c/r\'ed :(

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i had just been moved to the table.

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Old 05-12-2005, 11:06 AM
RavenJackson RavenJackson is offline
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Default Re: c/r\'ed :(

Bugstud

Out of curiousity, why do you think the villian is drawing here? Is it because he checked a flop with 2 clubs and you suspect he is hoping to draw a free card?
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: c/r\'ed :(

I'm going to disagree w/ bugstud on this one. I can't imagine a flush draw plays the flop like this. If anything, he's going to c/r all-in or put out a small bet on the flop. I just can't see a c/r for that much being a flush draw.

That said, I call looking for one of my 11 outs: a 9 or [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If the 9 hits, I'm getting my chips in the middle no matter what. If a club hits, it depends on villian's action. But, I think that often enough Villian will check the turn and you'll be able to push. Its a really tough spot if Villian decides to bet a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] though...it would depend on how much, etc., before I decided my action.
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:44 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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i folded.

i felt like i was turning my hand into KQ by taking that line. what do you think about a line of check the flop, call the turn, call/bet small on the river? it gives a lot of free cards on a scary board but it makes it less likely i'll get pushed off a winner.
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:49 AM
Simplistic Simplistic is offline
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i think playing your 2nd line is just weak poker. that's just me. and I fold the check raise
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:39 PM
Seadood228 Seadood228 is offline
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Default Re: Results

I think playing the first line will get you in a whole lot of trouble when you start to play the bigger tourneys.

Line 2 is fine against some players, in spite of what some 2+2ers think. If you play in tourneys with deeper stacks, checking the flop will be pretty standard. Whether or not to call or raise the turn will depend on the board, and your opponent's style of play.
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