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Old 05-10-2005, 04:03 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

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Hand #5872139-9 at SnG-0026m (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 10/May/05 15:57:11

missedout is at seat 0 with 1430.
Glory Seeker is at seat 1 with 1450.
raiderhole is at seat 2 with 1620.
bgraves889 is at seat 3 with 1390.
LOVES IT is at seat 4 with 1570.
MarkesanMike is at seat 6 with 1470.
Eazy_Money77 is at seat 7 with 3910.
SumCardsPlz is at seat 8 with 865.
Koro Syndrome is at seat 9 with 1295.
The button is at seat 2.

bgraves889 posts the small blind of 10.
LOVES IT posts the big blind of 20.

missedout: -- --
Glory Seeker: Th Ad
raiderhole: -- --
bgraves889: -- --
LOVES IT: -- --
MarkesanMike: -- --
Eazy_Money77: -- --
SumCardsPlz: -- --
Koro Syndrome: -- --

Pre-flop:

MarkesanMike folds. Eazy_Money77 folds. SumCardsPlz folds. Koro Syndrome folds. missedout folds.
Glory Seeker raises to 60. raiderhole calls.
bgraves889 re-raises to 100. LOVES IT calls. GlorySeeker calls. raiderhole calls.

Flop (board: Td 6h 9s): (pot 400)

bgraves889 checks. LOVES IT checks. Glory Seeker bets 300. raiderhole folds. bgraves889 goes all-in for 1290. LOVES IT folds. Glory Seeker ..........??

Help plz.
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:11 PM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

I'd fold. Looks like set to me.

Also, I'd fold AT to a raise preflop.

EDIT: Oops, thought it was the other guy checkraising. Still, I'd fold. Especially preflop though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:12 PM
flopquints flopquints is offline
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

This early in tourney especially given his pre flop re-raise id say its JJ-AA depending on how tough he is. At best here you are both holding A10. It could mean lower trips if he is a wanksta and reraises those hands, but i doubt it. I say a big overpair.
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:21 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

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I'd fold. Looks like set to me.

Also, I'd fold AT to a raise preflop.

EDIT: Oops, thought it was the other guy checkraising. Still, I'd fold. Especially preflop though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Really, it was folded to me in MP3. ATo isn't worth a raise here? What is?
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

56s definitely before A10o. that should give u a pretty good range of hands. holla
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

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56s definitely before A10o. that should give u a pretty good range of hands. holla

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Would you like to repeat that in english? Are you saying 65s is a better hand to steal with than ATo?
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:46 PM
MentalCombat MentalCombat is offline
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

i'd put him on an overpair and fold like clean laundry if I had no other reads and if i didnt think he had reads on me (ie: i had been betting from position over and over)
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

Sykes as you have demonstrated in 3 threads today you GREATLY over value AQ-A10. A10off is not a strong hand and not a hand that I want to be playing in a big pot.

You seem to be almost suicidal in your attempt to create big pots with marginal holdings early in SNG's.

To top it off someone re-raised your A10. It was only a min-re-raise which to me looks like somone begging you to come back over the top.

You are really willing to call off your whole stack this early in a SNG with a pair of 10's with how this hand was played pre-flop....

Now let's say this flop came A97 and the same situation arises when you raise 300 and the flop and the re-raiser goes all in.

Are you going to call? Now do you see why playing A10 in raised pots sucks! You can't even play TPTK confidently.

The fact that you don't even now why 56s could be deemed a better steal hand than A10off shows you have some learning to do.
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

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Sykes as you have demonstrated in 3 threads today you GREATLY over value AQ-A10. A10off is not a strong hand and not a hand that I want to be playing in a big pot.

You seem to be almost suicidal in your attempt to create big pots with marginal holdings early in SNG's.

To top it off someone re-raised your A10. It was only a min-re-raise which to me looks like somone begging you to come back over the top.

You are really willing to call off your whole stack this early in a SNG with a pair of 10's with how this hand was played pre-flop....

Now let's say this flop came A97 and the same situation arises when you raise 300 and the flop and the re-raiser goes all in.

Are you going to call? Now do you see why playing A10 in raised pots sucks! You can't even play TPTK confidently.

The fact that you don't even now why 56s could be deemed a better steal hand than A10off shows you have some learning to do.

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Your post makes no sense to me. I AM IN MP3. Why am I folding here? I'm definately not limping. How am I playing big pots? I think my bet on the flop is suffienct to say, "I have a hand, try and beat it" and most people fold. However, he check-raised all-in which confused me immensly.

oh, and AQ is an always raise as long as there isn't infinite limpers in.
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:44 PM
Iridox Iridox is offline
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Default Re: Fold? What does this check-raise on the flop mean?

I don't think there's anything wrong with raising with AT in that position, but you should have folded to the re-raise. You shouldn't even think about calling the all-in.
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