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Old 05-08-2005, 09:53 PM
illini43 illini43 is offline
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Default Bad check on the river???

Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Should I bet on the end? I figured if he had me beat he would raise, and if he missed his draw he would fold.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

Ya, bet.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:08 PM
reubenf reubenf is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

Sometimes I check behind there. Then I kick myself because villain has a small pocket pair that he would have called with.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:21 PM
xLukex xLukex is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

This should be an automatic bet.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:22 PM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

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Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

This usually means he'll do the same thing with any piece of the board. I bet this everytime.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:26 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

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Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

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Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5 BB

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The only top pair hands we're ahead of on the river are Q5 and Q6. If hero has only seen villain showdown top pairs, then this is a good check behind.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:15 PM
martinimagic martinimagic is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

You have to bet. He's going to check everytime since it doesn't cost anything.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:23 PM
dedmoney dedmoney is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

bet.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:35 PM
gvibes gvibes is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

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Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

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As Mr. Dyson has noted, has he checked-called with lesser pairs before?
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:00 AM
NickRegino NickRegino is offline
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Default Re: Bad check on the river???

check because you hate your kicker. As miles said you are only ahead of Q5 and Q6, this is an easy check especially if he is going to call on the showdown regardless.
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