Weaksauce AA

Downrock · #1 05-07-2005, 02:26 AM

Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 7 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Despite the fact that it's friday and 1/2 paradise and thus lots of goofy hands.. I'm thinking I should be raising that turn bet by BB. Am I right?

ArturiusX · #2 05-07-2005, 02:28 AM

A read would be nice. Is he a bluffer?

Downrock · #3 05-07-2005, 02:29 AM

Unfortunately no reads, this hand was just about right after I sat down, he's unknown to me. Standard tactic when he's unknown and bets into you in this case would probably be to raise and not flat call im thinking?

zCereal · #4 05-07-2005, 02:33 AM

raise the turn. you are lookng at someone who hit maybe a small pair and thinks he has it. he thinks you got overs and your bluffing at it so he leads the turn, i raise him here.

with the 3 bet i go to call down

Downrock · #5 05-07-2005, 02:34 AM

Yeah I agree, that would have been the way to do it.

the_rookie · #6 05-07-2005, 02:45 AM

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raise the turn. you are lookng at someone who hit maybe a small pair and thinks he has it. he thinks you got overs and your bluffing at it so he leads the turn, i raise him here.

with the 3 bet i go to call down

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Against an unknown this is chip-spewing. BB is representing trip 8s here. Do we really want to calldown if he 3-bets us?

Calling the turn is the correct play. This is gonna sound so cliche, but we are WA/WB on this turn.

A_C_Slater · #7 05-07-2005, 03:18 AM

Against an unknown. Well...if he is indeed total bluffing he will just fold to a turn raise anyway, right?

By just calling you encourage him to continue his total bluff on the river. Thus you earn 1BB more by calling and save a 2BB when behind. But he could also be semi-bluffing because he just picked up a flush draw in which case you want to raise and charge him for it. It is however unlikely that he would bet the flop simply with a backdoor flush draw, however.

It also seems unlikely that he would stop n go total bluff after you raised preflop and the flop.

Therfore, I think he either has what he's representing or he has an overpair or some piece of the flop. I would play it the same and call down vs. an unknown. If he turns over something donkish at showdown then I'll 3bet him next time.