pot-sized mistake?

piggity · #1 05-06-2005, 10:32 AM

15/30 B&M.

I raise with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] from the CO, unknown BB calls.
Flop is Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB checks, I bet, BB calls.
Turn is K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. BB checks, I bet, BB calls.
River is K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB checks, I bet, BB raises...

I out-play myself in my head and fold. Please beat up on me for folding. Thanks.

rigoletto · #2 05-06-2005, 10:43 AM

Well, when you outplay yourself, at least you can say that you where not outplayed by a worse player.

Bartholow · #3 05-06-2005, 10:47 AM

I don't think it's even a bad fold. River checkraise bluffs are pretty damn rare, expecially in live play. Of course, there's a chance he thinks he's betting for value but has a worse hand, but hard to see that with this betting pattern.

Jeffage · #4 05-06-2005, 11:00 AM

Folding to the river raise is fine unless this person seems notoriously tricky to you. If he's unknown, I still fold. No one's gonna checkraise a queen on the end. He either hit trips on the end, turned a flush, flopped a set, etc. You're beaten.

Jeff

piggity · #5 05-06-2005, 11:45 AM

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Folding to the river raise is fine unless this person seems notoriously tricky to you. If he's unknown, I still fold. No one's gonna checkraise a queen on the end. He either hit trips on the end, turned a flush, flopped a set, etc. You're beaten.

Jeff

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Yeah, that's pretty much what was racing through my head. I discovered later (after playing w/ him for a few more hours) that he was indeed the type of player who would routinely checkraise bluff the turn/river, but I suppose given the information I had maybe the laydown wasn't so horrible..

piggity · #6 05-06-2005, 11:57 AM

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Well, when you outplay yourself, at least you can say that you where not outplayed by a worse player.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think I was being too generous w/ myself. Turns out I most likely *did* get out-played by this guy.

But not having known his bluffing tendencies at the time, is this still a bad laydown?

rigoletto · #7 05-06-2005, 12:03 PM

I'm sure Jeff is correct. Particularly for B&M. My stupid comment wasn't aimed at the hand.