AQ hits on paired flop

Walker · #1 05-05-2005, 08:54 PM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 calls, MP3 3-bets, Hero???

davelin · #2 05-05-2005, 09:09 PM

I'd check/raise the flop unless facing two bets, then I would fold.

UncleSalty · #3 05-05-2005, 09:11 PM

Fold. You are out of position and are facing 3 jacks a pretty large percent of the time with 2 opponents. You need a MUCH bigger pot than this to continue with only 2 solid outs.

Walker · #4 05-05-2005, 09:28 PM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 calls, MP3 3-bets, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 has Qc 9c (two pair, queens and jacks).
MP3 has Qd Ks (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins 13.25 BB. 
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Why check-raise?

UncleSalty · #5 05-05-2005, 09:31 PM

Posting results that show you would have won the pot proves nothing about the theoretically correct play of the hand.

Nice fold. $10 Sklansky bucks for you!

davelin · #6 05-05-2005, 10:14 PM

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Why check-raise?

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I'm pretty confident the PFR will bet if checked to him, I can then raise and make the players in between face 2 cold. Checking also allows you fold cheaply on the flop if need be.

ArturiusX · #7 05-05-2005, 10:43 PM

I'd continue if I had the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Not enough people here are addressing the problem with reads. We need a read to fold this hand, period.

LSUfan1 · #8 05-05-2005, 11:48 PM

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Fold. You are out of position and are facing 3 jacks a pretty large percent of the time with 2 opponents. You need a MUCH bigger pot than this to continue with only 2 solid outs.

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Ditto. Regardless of outcome!

One possible reason to stay, is a good read on the players that gives you reason to believe they would be this aggressive without the jack. Even then you are going to be against the jack fairly often, and redraws are still thin.