Turn Play With Two Pair

toss · #1 05-04-2005, 09:20 AM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero raises, UTG folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop CR standard yes?

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises...

Villain here is loose and more on the passive side postflop. Do you 3-bet or call? What do you do if the rivers a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? What if the river is a blank?

hold_em · #2 05-04-2005, 09:27 AM

Barring a very good read, I go into call down mode. If a heart falls on the river you could try a bet fold line against the villian.

chief444 · #3 05-04-2005, 09:28 AM

I would bet the flop. I don't see this as anywhere close to a "standard" check/raise.

The turn seems like a definite call given the description. Did button call or fold the turn? If button 3-bets I'm folding.

If you river the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I'd just lead out.

If the river is a blank I guess check/call although I'd expect to lose most of the time.

toss · #4 05-04-2005, 09:31 AM

Cool. I guess I felt I had to CR this flop with 6 players in. Then again noone raised PF.

Button folded the turn and I just called villain's raise.
River is a blank.

Spartan1983 · #5 05-04-2005, 09:33 AM

If he is passive and he is raising you, I'd be a little concerned. I think I would 3bet and go from there. If he caps and then bets again on the river with anything other than an A or 6 falling, I think you can safely fold.

chief444 · #6 05-04-2005, 09:36 AM

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I think I would 3bet and go from there. If he caps and then bets again on the river with anything other than an A or 6 falling, I think you can safely fold.

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For 2/3 the cost you could just see a showdown.

toss · #7 05-04-2005, 09:39 AM

This line seems a bit too aggressive I think.