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Old 05-02-2005, 03:29 PM
Stefan_K Stefan_K is offline
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Default 5/10 Hand

Villian is a 46/20/1.1 with 65 i asb after only 80 hands

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 8.70 BB
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Hand

Looks good.
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Hand

Turn call is pretty thin, but your K is probably good if not your ten. Id say your ten is good not toooo often, maybe worth about one out if he always bluffbets the river, and slightly less if he only bets his bigger hand on the river. Your king almost all the time, probably about 2.5 outs, and the jack of course is 4 outs. So you probably have about 7.5 outs with the pot laying you almost 6-1. Like I said thats very thin, but factor in the implied odds, as well as the image considerations of not folding to turn donkbets and I think you have a fairly easy call.

Once he checks river, river bet is automatic. Pf and flop are fine against this opponent.

-Mike
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Hand

Stefan_K,

Against this sort of opponent, the turn donkbet usually means a weak hand hoping you have some kind of naked ace. I will very often raise the turn if I feel he is capable of folding 97 or A3. Otherwise, I think calling with 10 likely outs isn't terrible.

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Old 05-02-2005, 03:46 PM
Anders_G Anders_G is offline
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Postflop is good and straight-forward.

I don't like preflop. After only 80 hands he probably hasn't got more than 8 to 11 steal-opportunitys and the fact that he has taken the opportunity 7 times out of 11 doesn't really say that much about what kinds of quality he needs to steal.

You will be behind against any pair, any ace, KQ and KJ. I don't think you have a good enough read on CO to 3-bet KTo in this spot.
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:51 PM
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Postflop straightforward?

Villain is 46/20. Clearly he's very loose and very aggressive. You have position, you have dead money, you have superior postflop skills and you probably have the best hand. I'd definately 3-bet preflop.
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:58 PM
Anders_G Anders_G is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Hand

I mis-read the hand, I thought villain check-called all the way.

However, I like the call on the turn. If villain has anything he'll bet the river and if he doesn't he'll check and you can bet when you make a weak hand (like the pair of tens)
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Old 05-02-2005, 04:04 PM
Fabian Fabian is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Hand

This sounds like result oriented thinking to me. Do you often call turn bets with weak drawing hands, perhaps not quite with sufficient odds, because "villain will bet the river if he has anything and check otherwise, allowing me to value bet any weak hands I make on the river"?

And anyway, villain would probably/often bet the river if he didn't have anything in spots like these, anyway.

That being said, I defintately like the turn call here too, but I like raising about as much and folding is not very farfetched. Straightforward is oversimplyfing things, I think.
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Old 05-02-2005, 04:09 PM
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Like I said, i mis-read the post. I agree it is not straight-forward.
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