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Old 04-30-2005, 10:02 PM
PancakeBoy PancakeBoy is offline
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Default three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

BB (t3530)
UTG (t1420)
Button (t860)
Hero (t2190)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero all in, BB calls t1890.

Flop: (t2340) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2340) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2340) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2340




Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

BB (t2530)
UTG (t3610)
Hero (t1060)
SB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero all in, BB calls t860.

Flop: (t1160) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1160) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1160) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1160




and finally

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t2380)
SB (t2445)
BB (t1265)
Hero (t1910)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero All in

Flop: (t2110) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2110) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2110) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2110
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:07 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

Is this a glorified bad beat post?

The pushes with AQ are automatic and the T6s is closer but probably ok.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

Hand 1, add BB to your buddy list for being a moron unless he had AA or QQ (or TT if you've been overly aggressive).

Hand 2 with T6 is iffy. Remember with button pushes you have 2x the opportunity to be called so your fold equity is decreased. SB is low on chips so his range of calling hands is going to be pretty large. BB has you covered but still should be folding most hands here.

Hand 3 is fine. Yes you're UTG and have more opportunity to be called but with stack sizes so close they'd be a moron to call with anything but a super premium hand.


This is also a great lesson on why you need to play 8 gajillion SnGs for things to even out. This is just 3 hands....
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

push
fold
push
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

moron to call with tt? come again?
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:44 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

Hand 1 and 3 AQ is a monster...pushing is good.

Hand 2 I can't figure out if you are on the button or in the SB given the converter stupidness.

If on the button I'd fold...if in the SB I'm liable to push...I'd like to know who is in what position though first.

Yugoslav
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

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Hand 2 I can't figure out if you are on the button or in the SB given the converter stupidness.


Yugoslav

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My guess is he's on the button with no SB.
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Old 05-01-2005, 01:09 AM
shayneon shayneon is offline
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

1 Push, unlucky that the BB had something

2 Fold, I would go through the blinds one more time - should be able to push with something higher than a 10.

3 Push
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Old 05-01-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

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moron to call with tt? come again?

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BB was moron unless he HAD AA, QQ, TT.

If we're on the bubble with stacks like that and someone who hasn't been aggressive goes all in, I'm folding TT most of the time. I can wait for a much better spot to get my money in. If he's pushed my last 3 BB's while in his SB of course I'm calling with TT.
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Old 05-01-2005, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: three bubble hands on the bubble...wait or go for it?

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BB was moron unless he HAD AA, QQ, TT.

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I have to ask ... whats wrong with KK and JJ?

Also, assuming hero is raising like he should. The BB can call much more liberally than you think (he has Hero covered by 1300 chips).
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