Does "Kings over" mean a full house

[celiboy]

I was in a MTT today and I had pocket 10's. Anyways I ended up with a full house 10/10/10/K/K. Player went all in and I did not call as I put him on K/10 or K/K which had me beat either way. In the chat box he told me it was a good laydown as he said he had "Kings over". Does this mean he had K/K/K/10/10 - full house. Would this be called Kings full of 10's or 10's full of Kings? I'm confused on the terminology.

So two questions?

1. What does "Kings over" mean
2. What is proper full house terminology. Would K/K/K/10/10 be called Kings full of Tens?

Thanks

[Joshssj4]

1. What does "Kings over" mean
- Just a way of saying it I suppose, way to stray from confusion so you know which one is 3 of a kind.
2. What is proper full house terminology. Would K/K/K/10/10 be called Kings full of Tens?
- Yes.

[ThinkQuick]

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2. What is proper full house terminology. Would K/K/K/10/10 be called Kings full of Tens?


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Also known as a 'boat' or 'full boat' - I used to think of it as the 3 Ks forming a boat holding the 2 Ts. Therefore Kings Full. (Of Tens)

[RacersEdge]

"Over" refers to 2 pair, so AA77 is "Aces over".

AAA77 would be "Aces full".

[StevieG]

Maybe I have some brain lock this morning, but "over" is used with full houses in the same way that "full of" is used. So AAA44 is "full house, aces over fours" or "aces full of fours".

AA77x would be called "aces and sevens", or for shorthand aces up.

[RacersEdge]

My bad. I was confusing "over" and "up". I need to stop posting early in the morning.

[AKQJ10]

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My bad. I was confusing "over" and "up". I need to stop posting early in the morning.

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Not at all, you were correct.

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"Over" refers to 2 pair, so AA77 is "Aces over".

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That's the way I've heard it used. Occasionally you hear someone say "Full house, kings over tens" but I find it more unambiguous to say "kings full of tens" when it's a FH. If someone says "kings over" without any FH qualifier they're talking about two pair, to my knowledge and experience.

YMMV of course.

[StevieG]

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If someone says "kings over" without any FH qualifier they're talking about two pair, to my knowledge and experience.


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Over is used for full houses, and is used for pairs.

Here are sample images from Pacific Poker:





Here are sample images from Planet Poker

[AKQJ10]

Earlier I wrote,

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If someone says "kings over" without any FH qualifier they're talking about two pair, to my knowledge and experience. (emphasis added)

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I appreciate the effort to make the screen shots, but I see nothing that contradicts what I wrote. Both the sites you captured clearly stated the words "Full House".

If you want to conduct a fair experiment, go up to the next N avid poker players you find and ask them, "Does aces over beat a king-high flush?" Now you've got me curious what the most frequent usage is, but I'm pretty sure you'll find the majority interpets "over" to indicate two-pair, IN THE ABSENCE OF A CLEAR INDICATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FULL HOUSES.

[StevieG]

Sure, I'm curious. Let's try it. What forum should we set up the poll? But I have to say, that wording "does aces over beat a king high flush" is odd. I have heard "aces up", "aces full", but never "aces over."