laydown aces?

TStoneMBD · #1 04-22-2005, 08:48 PM

the guy in the blinds is 51/7/1 84 hands.
the turn checkraiser is 66/3/1 after 196 hands.

i guess i should have folded the turn right?
but, is 3betting to get rid of the blind better than calling down?
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

helpmeout · #2 04-22-2005, 09:10 PM

You have much to learn about 6max.

mperich · #3 04-22-2005, 09:14 PM

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I estimate folding the turn to be at least a 2BB mistake.

-Mike

arkady · #4 04-22-2005, 09:19 PM

This is an old problem. Turn raises typically mean trouble, but folding an overpair like that is not a good idea. I estimate that I am still the winner when something like that happens about 20-30% of the time. If my estimate is correct, then that is too big of a pot to be throwing away 1/3rd of the time.

TStoneMBD · #5 04-22-2005, 09:20 PM

right, there are insane donkeys. i dont fold much anymore.

but is raising better than calling down?

mperich · #6 04-22-2005, 09:21 PM

I like a call better, you might blow the overcaller off a hand that beats you, and if you raise he is calling with a draw anyways.

-Mike

TStoneMBD · #7 04-22-2005, 09:26 PM

checkraiser showed Q5o.
calling station showed J9.

that is why i was so pissed about this hand.

helpmeout · #8 04-22-2005, 09:28 PM

Even good players will raise this turn with a hand like KQ.

I prefer to call down because I'm not folding my Aces to a cap (he may have 2 pair), I also dont want him to fold when I am ahead.

I only 3bet if the opponent is known to be very aggressive and likely to call down with a worse hand.

davidross · #9 04-22-2005, 10:07 PM

This is an auto 3 bet on the turn for me. I see this wait for the turn raise a lot with just top pair, and even 2 pair will probably slow down anyway allowing you to check th eriver if you want.

mungpo · #10 04-23-2005, 12:00 AM

This is an easy 3-bet on the turn.