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Old 04-23-2005, 02:32 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

PFR is relatively new to the table. I think this was the first raise I saw from him. He seemed relatively tight preflop and hasn't done anything to get my attention.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB folds, Hero...
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

Fold without looking twice.
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

I think checkraising is ok sometimes. I also think folding is ok sometimes.

This time, I think I'd checkraise.

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Old 04-23-2005, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

I would check raise this against myself. It all depends on how tight/passive CO is, but I would raise here more often than fold.
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

On a second look, a check-raise might be good with a good read. I have no problems mucking this though.
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

This pot is worth going for. I check raise to get it heads-up, but I'd have to know a bit about Villain's raising standards before making this play.

If I know Villain to be a tight raiser, I check raise the flop. If Villain reraises and leads the turn, I fold. If UTG+1 folds and Villain just calls my raise I check behind/call down unless scary cards hit.

In all other scenarios I'd re-evaluate the situation on the turn.

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Old 04-23-2005, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

I'm curious as to why a check-raise may be proper. Is this read-dependent, trying to spook the PFR off his overcards?

I'm guessing you can safely fold to a 3-bet (or call and fold the turn UI).

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Old 04-23-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

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I'm curious as to why a check-raise may be proper. Is this read-dependent, trying to spook the PFR off his overcards?

I'm guessing you can safely fold to a 3-bet (or call and fold the turn UI).

-K

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Yeah, he will incorrectly fold many overcard hands to a single bet on the turn.
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

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I'm curious as to why a check-raise may be proper. Is this read-dependent, trying to spook the PFR off his overcards?


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It's very possible that your hand is best at the moment. A check-raise will most likely force out UTG+1 and maximize your chance of winning this pot.

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Old 04-23-2005, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

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I think checkraising is ok sometimes. I also think folding is ok sometimes.

This time, I think I'd checkraise.

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Why checkraise this time?
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