Bet with the worst hand, check with a likely best?

[chief444]

Both hands are Party 3/6...what started as a 4-handed game and is now like 8-handed. Both MP opponents (same two in both hands) are similar...not good, not horrible. About 30/6/1.5-2 type stats. A little loose both preflop and postflop and mildly aggressive.

Hand 1:
Two MP limpers, I check my option in the BB with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero Bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Check, check

River: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets....

Standard?

Hand 2:
MP1 limps, MP2 raises, Hero calls in BB with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], MP1 calls.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets, MP1 calls

River: non-diamond 3.
Hero checks intending to call a bet.

Comments?

[27offsooot]

1: I think that you'll take it down often enough. You're obviously assuming he's raising on the same draw as you, so you should fold him > 20% of the time or whatever.

2: seems pretty standard.

[QTip]

In hand 2, why would you check the river planning to call a bet? To avoid a raise?

[chief444]

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In hand 2, why would you check the river planning to call a bet? To avoid a raise?


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No, I could fold to a raise. But a missed draw is more likely to bet if checked to than to call a bet.

[27offsooot]

induce a bluff. You won't likely get called by a worse hand (for the most part, opponent seemed reasonable).

[QTip]

I confirm

[27offsooot]

One other comment about hand 1: If you had Axs, i assume u don't bet the river, right?

[QTip]

That's my assumption. I think the bet is there simply because 9 high loses.

[chief444]

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One other comment about hand 1: If you had Axs, i assume u don't bet the river, right?

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Right. Basically I posted both hands together because they're similar in the sense that it's heads up against a likely draw...and missed draw on the river. The difference between the two hands is the first has really no showdown value and the second clearly does. So yes, I'm check/calling A-high here just like I did 22.