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Old 04-21-2005, 05:44 PM
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you are dealt KQs UTG+1 in a 15/30 Party game, UTG Raises (he is a 25/15/.74). Whats your line?

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Old 04-21-2005, 05:51 PM
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all depends on my table image and whose acting behind you.

considering that the table is fairly tight - average.

If I have a tighter table image I would raise. This would more then likely leave you and the villian in the hand alone (maybe the big blind). If someone cold calls in late position then you would at least know where the strength is. I would actually think less of late positions hand if he 3-bet.

If the table is fairly loose aggressive

I would fold this hand because my reraise from early position means nothing to these maniacs.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:57 PM
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forgot to mention, 10 handed. Only been about 4-5 orbits so probably no table image yet (agressive if anything)
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:04 PM
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with no table image or read on the table yet. I would raise to get a better feel for the table and to hopefully iso.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:46 PM
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Fold.
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:00 PM
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no read. agreed.
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:47 PM
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Separate question but related.....is there a way to get PFR by position in the notes? He may have a PFR of 15%...but that may be mostly from his play in MP, LP, and blinds.
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:57 PM
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you are dealt KQs UTG+1 in a 15/30 Party game, UTG Raises (he is a 25/15/.74). Whats your line?



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fold.
-Barron
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:59 PM
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Separate question but related.....is there a way to get PFR by position in the notes? He may have a PFR of 15%...but that may be mostly from his play in MP, LP, and blinds.

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i do this stuff in my head:

24/15/x

if he raises MP first in i assume that is the mean and right around 15%.

if he raises UTG or reraises another raise then i'd assume it was an overestimate and that his real raises in those positions are some fractional factor*15%.

same thing for button first in raises etc...i raise much more than 15% first in on the button. my pfr is 12 or so.

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Old 04-21-2005, 10:07 PM
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I tend to err on the side of loosenes and playing hands, but I'm folding here and it's not very close IMO.

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