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Old 04-12-2005, 10:58 AM
TheDelChop TheDelChop is offline
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Default Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (7.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero folds.


How freaking bad is this fold? I couldn't give the BB any other hand but the diamonds. Should I be raising and folding to a 3-bet? Dammit I know I f'ed this one up.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:03 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

You have a straight right? You have to at least call. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

Raise preflop.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

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How freaking bad is this fold?

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Pretty damn horrendous. Just shrug your shoulders and call here. BB may have backed into a straight also or hit J10 and figures, "I'm calling so I might as well bet." Pay it off everytime.

I would also raise this preflop after the poster checks and others have folded.

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Old 04-12-2005, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

You might be beat here but you do beat top pair, 2-pair, set... surely that is good at least some of the time. you have to think a bit more if this comes back 2 to you but you must at least call this river bet.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:13 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

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you have to think a bit more if this comes back 2 to you but you must at least call this river bet.

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That's going to be tricky since he's closing the action on the river.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:22 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

A flush might be a likely hand but a nine or even some two pair you beat is just as likely. Getting those odds you need to call the river, you'll get at least half the pot more than often enough.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (7.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero folds.


How freaking bad is this fold? I couldn't give the BB any other hand but the diamonds. Should I be raising and folding to a 3-bet? Dammit I know I f'ed this one up.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

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I'm not sure that this fold is as bad as you make it sound. BB likely has at least a 9, if not diamonds. MP1 obviously likes his hand too. The pot has 11.66BB when it gets to you. Sometimes you will win a piece of it. Sometimes you will win none of it. Rarely will you win all of it. I think this decision is close.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

Bob:

The pot is only 9.66 BB when it gets to him, and I still think the fold is still pretty bad....he's closing the action with a very nice hand.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Whatever you do, don\'t lay dowm the best hand!

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Raise preflop.

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I concur.
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