Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Internet Gambling > Internet Gambling
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:17 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,026
Default Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

I have very hard time filing the correct way of declaring all wins and then itemizing my losses as a deduction. I think this declaration of losses sort of stands out like a blinking light. If you just declare winnings, then thats all gravy for the IRS, and as a 19 year old, they probally wont think too much about it. But once you start putting down a big number on the deductions space, that might trigger them to ask you questions. I have insignificant records. I have, of course, everything through my bank account and neteller. So if I was audited, I could show that my numbers are more or less correct, and if it comes to it, Ill pay whatever penalties are required, but Id absolutely hate to get into a situation where youre asked to show proof of losses. I can only imagine some horible situation where they take your winnings number at word, then through out all your losses.

Is there a better chance of flying under the radar but not filing the correct way?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:23 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,026
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

It'd be interesting to get into the pysche of an IRS auditor, but I cant imagine them looking twice at anything good for them. They'd be focused on people trying to take from them. So Okay this guy has gambling winnings, he might even had made a mistake and not declared his losses, lets not even go there cause its all gravy.

then john doe over here who is declaring 20K in losses, lets see it boy.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:31 AM
balkii balkii is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 358
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

i dont see what your problem is. if you accurately track your wins and losses, and accurately report these on your taxes, you should have nothing to fear.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:35 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 823
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

[ QUOTE ]
i dont see what your problem is. if you accurately track your wins and losses, and accurately report these on your taxes, you should have nothing to fear.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's exactly what his problem is. He hasn't accurately tracked anything and only has reasonable estimates.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:44 AM
GrekeHaus GrekeHaus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Zoidberg, for THREE!
Posts: 314
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i dont see what your problem is. if you accurately track your wins and losses, and accurately report these on your taxes, you should have nothing to fear.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's exactly what his problem is. He hasn't accurately tracked anything and only has reasonable estimates.

[/ QUOTE ]

You can basically just report whatever came out of your accounts and be ok. There's no way for the IRS to see anything in any of your accounts.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:48 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 823
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

That is simply not true. They can get a court order for you to basically show them anything that they want and if you don't comply it's jail time.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-05-2005, 04:58 AM
Shoe Shoe is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Mil-town
Posts: 98
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

And by jail time he means federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-05-2005, 05:15 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: memphis
Posts: 1,245
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

[ QUOTE ]
You can basically just report whatever came out of your accounts and be ok. There's no way for the IRS to see anything in any of your accounts.

[/ QUOTE ]




This may be the worst advice in the history of 2+2.


It is incumbent upon YOU to be able to document and prove your losses. If you can't then the IRS can basically have their way with you.


The OP may or may not have a valid point on this. Not really sure and I'm certainly not one to be giving out tax advice or legal advice either.


FWIW - I'm declaring my deductions (filing as a pro so I get to claim expenses like a business) and am keeping my fingers crossed that my somewhat shoddy record-keeping on this matter doesn't get me in too terribly deep.

I'm not exaggerating anything though and am reporting truthfully so I feel okay about it...just am hoping they don't climb up my ass with a fine-tooth comb asking me for receipts on every single deduction on there.

It's obvious that I'm not hiding additional money anywhere. I am still driving my 96 Chevy with 170k miles on it for crying out loud so there won't be too much for them to be suspicious of if I am investigated....but since I don't have receipts for everything and some of my daily-records are a bit shaky I am aware of the possibility that I am unable to back up every bit of information like I'm supposed to.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-05-2005, 06:14 AM
J.R. J.R. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: More soon
Posts: 1,808
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

[ QUOTE ]
You can basically just report whatever came out of your accounts and be ok. There's no way for the IRS to see anything in any of your accounts.


[/ QUOTE ]

The IRS doesn't need to, because they can just disallow/not recognize your deductions unless they are adequately documented. As Microbob said, its your obligation.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-05-2005, 07:24 AM
mistrpug mistrpug is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: ^ my favorite pair
Posts: 271
Default Re: Is Following the IRS\'s rules asking for trouble?

[ QUOTE ]
Is Following the IRS's rules asking for trouble?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just think about how rediculous that sounds for a minute.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.