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Old 04-10-2005, 03:20 AM
ClaytonN ClaytonN is offline
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Default Extracting the most with your image

**Disclaimer. I play weird. Do not take my approach in these hands without careful reads of the opponents**

So far at this table I have an imposing image. I'm playing aggressively with marginal hands, and the table knows it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($76.30)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($117.85)</font>
MP ($26.70)
Button ($21.50)
SB ($73.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $17</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $116.85</font>, BB calls $58.30 (All-In).

Turn: ($195.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($195.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $195.15

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Kc Js (two pair, kings and fours).
Hero has 7d 3d (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $195.15. </font>

This is the hazard you face when a player takes your image into consideration. Had I been a solid TAG player in this 5 handed game I would not have gotten that call.

Oohs and ahhs serenade the hand. The very next hand is dealt:

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($193.15)</font>
BB ($26.70)
UTG ($21.50)
MP ($50)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($72.15)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($7) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $191.15</font>, Button calls $55.15 (All-In).

Turn: ($268.30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($268.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $268.30

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 4s Qs (flush, queen high).
Button has Ac Jd (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $268.30. </font>

My image was set, and when I had a kick-ass hand I played it the same way as my drunken-monkey approach earlier with bottom pair + flush draw.

This delves into metagame, but this is a tactic I love using in shorthanded and loosish games. Yes, I will lose sometimes, but my big hands get paid off in spades. Sort of like a pee-wee league version of Spirit Rock.
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Old 04-10-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Extracting the most with your image

Preflop is whatever, but if I find myself in that situation on the flop, I play it the same way. I think both flops are pretty standard.
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Old 04-10-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Extracting the most with your image

I have a nice one too... Please bear in mind that these are 2 consecutive hands:

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Button ($5.50)
SB ($21.60)
BB ($24.25)
UTG ($49.40)
MP1 ($21.20)
MP2 ($24.60)
Hero ($17.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $25 ...and I showed my cards.

Very next hand (Villain obviously is in the Button):

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CO ($5.50)
Button ($15.10)
SB ($23.75)
BB ($49.40)
UTG ($20.70)
MP1 ($24.60)
Hero ($24.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $1.5</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, Button calls $3.50, SB calls $3.50.

Turn: ($18) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5</font>, SB calls $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($33) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $4.6 (All-In)</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $4.60.

Final Pot: $42.20
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Old 04-10-2005, 05:53 AM
zaxx19 zaxx19 is offline
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Default Re: Extracting the most with your image

Poker isnt a ame about figuring out how your opponents are playing, it is a game of figuring out how your opponents think you are playing.


Layne Flack said this once and I read this in Cardplayer.

I think its one of the best advice ive ever read on poker.
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Old 04-10-2005, 06:26 AM
TheTimeIsUp TheTimeIsUp is offline
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Default Re: Extracting the most with your image

I personally think that image affects online play little. But thats just me..
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Old 04-10-2005, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Extracting the most with your image

At 25 tables ....perhaps 50...

Once you get to real games it matters immensly.
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