AA flopped boat, how many did I miss?

benkath1 · #1 04-04-2005, 11:58 AM

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

 Bet here? My only read is button who is EXTREMELY passive. I didn't want to scare anybody off, and of course I wanted someone else to bet my hand for me. 

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, Button folds.

 OK, now I am in this situation quite a bit. If I raise, the 2 to follow will surely fold, and so might SB. If I call, 2 to follow might call also for 2 extra bets. Didn't work, but is my thinking correct? 

River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

 No brainer.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

I think I did right, but again the slowplaying thing has me stumped.

davelin · #2 04-04-2005, 12:04 PM

Well, you expected someone to bet for you and one of the players after you was extremely passive.

You must not like money. Guys, it's not hard, just BET!

hicherbie · #3 04-04-2005, 12:06 PM

slowplaying this on all streets is a bad idea. you should be firing out, esp since you have 4 others in the hand with you. slowplaying this is giving money away.

GrunchCan · #4 04-04-2005, 12:07 PM

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My only read is button who is EXTREMELY passive.

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I wanted someone else to bet my hand for me.

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Oh, brother...

bozlax · #5 04-04-2005, 12:08 PM

Bet the flop. You were the PFR, they're expecting you to bet and aren't going to put you on a monster automatically. Especially if Button is passive, you might lose MP1 but then Button calls and the others follow suit (monkey see, monkey do). If somebody's holding a 3 you might see a raise...call it.

Then, when the blank falls on the turn bet/raise and it won't seem so unusual. Here's where you can go to war against 43s.

River's fine, but with my line probably goes check-bet-call.

GrunchCan · #6 04-04-2005, 12:12 PM

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I think I did right

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Just to add a little more, I'm pretty confident in saying that you made just about as little with this hand as you possibly could.

Your opponents aren't paying close enough attention to be afraid when you bet the flop. If anyone has anything at all, they will call. If anyone has an actual hand, like a PP, they might even give you action - in which case you should raise.

Passivity isn't the new cool. Aggression pays in poker.

benkath1 · #7 04-04-2005, 12:13 PM

I love learning from my mistakes. Thanks for the flame, it seems the only way for me to learn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

benkath1 · #8 04-04-2005, 12:14 PM

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Passivity isn't the new cool. Aggression pays in poker.

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My new motto.

istewart · #9 04-04-2005, 12:19 PM

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Just to add a little more, I'm pretty confident in saying that you made just about as little with this hand as you possibly could.

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I can't stop laughing.

benkath1 · #10 04-04-2005, 12:30 PM

OK, I'm not trying to argue with you guys, because I agree with you that I misplayed the hand but.....If I would have posted the same hand and would have bet the flop and everybody folded, would I have gotten a different response?

Again, I'm not trying to argue, I'd just like to know.