Do you check fold the turn? I smell a slowplay.

beset7 · #1 03-30-2005, 08:09 PM

CO has a 11% vpip 5% pfr over 100 hands. I considered brown trouting him.

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed)

BB ($22.35)
UTG ($49.8)
UTG+1 ($20.26)
UTG+2 ($16.1)
MP1 ($9.75)
Hero ($43.8)
MP3 ($58.65)
CO ($25.9)
Button ($23.3)
SB ($22.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.1, 1 fold, CO calls $1.10, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.85.

Flop: ($3.65) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $3.5, CO calls $3.50, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: ($10.65) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

River: ($24.65) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $29.65

kyro · #2 03-30-2005, 08:34 PM

You think villain has a spade or 6 here 80% of the time? And no, I don't check/fold this turn unless you have a better read.

beset7 · #3 03-30-2005, 08:56 PM

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You think villain has a spade or 6 here 80% of the time? And no, I don't check/fold this turn unless you have a better read.

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I felt weak folding to such small bet but I believe a player this tight just wouldn't bet that river without a spade or a 6. Thanks for your opinion on the turn. He rivered quads for what it's worth. You call the river?

kyro · #4 03-30-2005, 08:58 PM

I'd have to be there to really know for sure. But I think I call that most of the time unless it's a guy who NEVER bets unless he has a very strong hand. Tight preflop doesn't mean passive postflop, remember that.

wrto4556 · #5 03-30-2005, 09:28 PM

Does clarkmeister's theorem work for no limit?

If so, bet the river, fold to a raise.

beset7 · #6 03-30-2005, 10:08 PM

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Does clarkmeister's theorem work for no limit?

If so, bet the river, fold to a raise.

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I'm unfammilar with clarkmeister's theorem (i.e. I haven't lurked in mid/high limit much).

fuzzbox · #7 03-31-2005, 10:39 AM

Dont bet the river here, as the only hands that can call you are better hands than yours (a spade, or a full house).

Check/folding is fine, check/calling is not unreasonable either.

Its close I think.

Betting the river is horrible though.

swolfe · #8 03-31-2005, 11:50 AM

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Betting the river is horrible though.

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it's not necessarily horrible...will your opponent call with his 8 high flush when you could have been betting AQ with the Qs?

EDIT: in this case, with the paired board and a rock, his call on the flop and turn mean that he has a good flush or a set (turned full house).

my comment above is meant in a more general case where there's a 4-flush or flush on the board. go ahead and be the aggressor...people with baby flushes will fold since it's unlikely that anyone would bet that without a higher card of the suit.