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Old 03-28-2005, 06:39 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

This hand is in a lower stakes game, but the stacks were >100BB and there was some very high level thinking going on. Please read the hand history linked before continuing to the analysis.

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OK. My main opponent here is popinjay, a smart solid player.

When he puts in the 16th raise, I put him squarely on QQ or KK. Because of the lack of larger raising, I did not have him on AA.

At this point, I felt that if I pushed he would call with KK, since I could have a wide range of hands.

On the other hand, I felt the bad opponent in the middle was calling w/ a hand that I likely had dominated.

So, here was my plan. I figured that after I put in the 25th raise, popin would know that I must have AA for sure. So, after that, I just went all-in on the 28th raise. I also did not want to do much more small raising, since he would then be pot-committed. I felt that the opponent in the middle who was very bad would call w/ a dominated hand. And I also thought that popin would make a good laydown w/ KK v. an obvious AA. Only a sucker would call the 28th raise, all-in, with KK.

Anyway, as planned, the opponent called w/ J9, which I had dominated w/ my QJ. Popin, however, made a horrible call w/ his KK and ended up winning the hand.

Thoughts?
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:14 AM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] What about min-raising?
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

I think you and Paluka should do a variety show.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

[ QUOTE ]

Anyway, as planned, the opponent called w/ J9, which I had dominated w/ my QJ. Popin, however, made a horrible call w/ his KK and ended up winning the hand.

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]

How does the guy with kings make a horrible call? He has you smashed.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

I can certainly see where you got the inspiration from...
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

Popinjay is a [censored] retard. Tough luck El.

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Old 03-28-2005, 09:04 AM
Nalapoint1 Nalapoint1 is offline
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

do you think maybe he had a better read on you than you had on him?
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:07 AM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

i am concerned about the thirteenth raise. will need to do some sims on that. otherwise it looks good.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:29 AM
2ndGoat 2ndGoat is offline
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

You're [censored] around. Popin is [censored] around. Your fish is [censored] around.

When you reraise all-on, Popin still has got to believe there's some probability you're still [censored] around. After all, if you had AA, why scare them out of the pot now?

When I'm trying to induce a laydown, as a rule of thumb I try not to do it pre-flop to opponents who I put on KK.

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Old 03-28-2005, 09:35 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: More higher level thinking - putting in the 28th raise

The "whipsawing" was so ruthless I am amazed you were not reported for collusion!

Imagine, then you would not be allowed to play such lucrative games as .50/$1 NL and your source of livelihood would be endangered since you would need to move up to even higher stakes with stronger opponents. How then would you be able to keep yourself in wrestling masks?
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