Where can I find all 169 hold 'em hands??

[Prowler]

Hi all,

I am trying to track down a list of the 169 hold 'em starting hands (not all of their permutations) and their "starting value". Finding the top 10 or 20 seems simple enough but nowhere can I find the entire list. Hope this is clear and any help is greatly appreciated,

Thanks in advance.

[Cobra]

I can not say wether the numbers are accurated but here is a web site that lists all the hands.

http://poker.worldzonepro.com/nofoldemholdem001020.html

Cobra

[eastbay]

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Hi all,

I am trying to track down a list of the 169 hold 'em starting hands (not all of their permutations) and their "starting value".

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"Starting value" is meaningless. Limit or no-limit? Passive game or aggressive game? Deep money or shallow money? There is no such thing as a pat "starting value."

Are you talking about something like the S-M preflop groups? Why not just buy one of their hold 'em books?

eastbay

[slickpoppa]

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Hi all,

I am trying to track down a list of the 169 hold 'em starting hands (not all of their permutations) and their "starting value".

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"Starting value" is meaningless. Limit or no-limit? Passive game or aggressive game? Deep money or shallow money? There is no such thing as a pat "starting value."

Are you talking about something like the S-M preflop groups? Why not just buy one of their hold 'em books?

eastbay

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I think basically what he is asking for is a chart that lists the probability that a hand will win against a random number of opponents. There is that gocee site that has a chart like that, but I can't remember the link.

[pzhon]

Percentage of pots won against random hands:

http://gocee.com/poker/HE_Value.htm

PokerRoom data on how hands fared, averaged over all positions and games:

http://teamfu.freeshell.org/poker_hands.html

[Prowler]

Many, many thanks all!

Greatly appreciated!