Stars $3-R WSOP Supersat: Right time to go all-in?

GrunchCan · #1 03-15-2005, 01:45 AM

The limpers are both bad players. They are both loose limpers, weak and passive. I am confident that my PF raise wiill either force them out, or they will call with much the worse of it.

The BB I'm not too sure about. I haven't seen him make a raise like this before.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t4570)
MP2 (t10745)
MP3 (t10107)
CO (t8735)
Hero (t9990)
SB (t21750)
BB (t8840)
UTG (t25130)
UTG+1 (t1651)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t400, 2 folds, MP3 calls t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1700, 1 fold, BB raises to t3000, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero raises to t9965, BB calls t5815 (All-In).

Flop: (t19755) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t19755) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t19755) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t19755

GrunchCan · #2 03-15-2005, 10:11 AM

bump for morning crew

aexchange · #3 03-15-2005, 10:22 AM

as a newbie, looks like you are getting the worst of it. you were probably up against QQ or KK. there are probably better spots to get your money in, but im not sure if thats the wisest spot to do it.

but then again, i could be wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

betgo · #4 03-15-2005, 11:35 AM

The small reraise might mean a big pair, but in a $3 rebuy you have to push with AK.

GrunchCan · #5 03-15-2005, 12:07 PM

The rebuy period had ended. Does this affect strategy? Or are you suggesting that I have to push becasue the caliber of my opponents in a $3 rebuy is low?

betgo · #6 03-15-2005, 12:19 PM

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The rebuy period had ended. Does this affect strategy? Or are you suggesting that I have to push becasue the caliber of my opponents in a $3 rebuy is low?

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I knew the rebuy period was over. The players in a $3 rebuy are generally not good, plus rebuy players tend to play loose after the rebuy period.

You have only 25 BBs, so you pretty much have to push. If you flat call for 1/3 or your chips, the rest of the money pretty much has to go in on the flop.

What did your opponent have? You are pretty much OK against anything but AA or KK. If you lost to any other pair, these things happen.

GrunchCan · #7 03-15-2005, 12:26 PM

He had TT, so it was a race. I read him for something like a medium pair, and figured I had at least a little fold equity to go along with my overs.

I had lost every race thus far in the tourney, so I figured I was due for a win. Unfortunately, I was wrong, and I did not improve. I busted on the next hand. Oh well. I felt like I played this hand right, but I wasn't sure.

betgo · #8 03-15-2005, 12:33 PM

Your opponent is getting better than 2-1 pot odds, so he pretty much has to call your push, hoping you have AK or AQ rather than a bigger pair.

You can't fold AK to the reraise. You have to gamble. Sorry you lost.

Your opponent should have either flat called or pushed. A push might take the pot if you had a weaker hand than AK. The only purpose of the minireraise is to represent a big pair.

#9 03-15-2005, 12:58 PM

Sometimes, I find it disconcerting with the tendency of some posters jumping to conclusive deductions like "this-is-a-low-buy-in-so-my-opponent-is-dumb mentality".

When re-raised by a shorter stacked opponent even if he is in BB while holding AK, albeit taking stack and blind sizes into consideration, I tend to slow down and may flatly call here. At best, it is a coin flip. You said the loosies have folded and yet you re-raised the BB you are not sure about. Why?

Remember: 'Dummies' get good cards too.

betgo · #10 03-15-2005, 01:08 PM

AK is a big hand. The play is looser, so your opponent might be willing to go allin with Ax or Kx, where you are the 3-1 favorite. Yeh, he may have a big hand, but you can't credit him with that as much as in a tighter tournament.

What is the purpose of flat calling? There will be 7K is the pot and 5.5K left in the opponent's stack. I suppose the plan is to fold if an ace or king doesn't flop.