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03-09-2005, 07:09 PM
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QJs in LP...too weak?
Pacific .25/.50 10 handed
OK, I've got QJ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in LP1 first position folds, all call to CO CO raises and small blind folds All 8 of us call (15 SB in pot) Should I have raised preflop, or 3 bet his raise or am I right to just call? Flop 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] all check to raiser in CO and he bets, mp2 folds and LP2 folds and here we go. (10 bb IN POT) TURN 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Check to CO and button raises him, EP calls, one fold and I 3 bet and get 3 callers. (22 BB in pot) WTF does that mean? At this point I don't see anybody going anywhere. river J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Oh great, JJ? Check, I bet, CO raises, Button 3 bets, I???? 
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#2
03-09-2005, 07:30 PM
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Re: QJs in LP...too weak?
okay, i'll give a try. yes, raise preflop. suited connected high cards is worth a reraise.
i'm putting CO on 3 of a kind, maybe 2 pair, maybe 3 of kind, but not full house. however, the button might have limpishly played his pocket 9s and found a boat. i'm calling.
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#4
03-09-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: QJs in LP...too weak?
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I would bet the flop the way the hand went down. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Or were you just kidding - like because you know the 9 is coming. It just seems that two overcards (not particularly strong) and a GSD does not make for a bet here.
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#5
03-09-2005, 07:37 PM
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Re: QJs in LP...too weak?
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It just seems that two overcards (not particularly strong) and a GSD does not make for a bet here. [/ QUOTE ] Not only would a bet be approprite here, but I think it is manditory. Brad
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#6
03-10-2005, 12:46 AM
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Re: QJs in LP...too weak?
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Not only would a bet be approprite here, but I think it is manditory. Brad [/ QUOTE ] Would you care to elaborate on that some? Would it be mandatory because i didn't raise preflop, or because of my position? I usually only witness hands like this after folding, and just realized I need to know how to handle it. Thanks, Ben
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#7
03-10-2005, 12:50 AM
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Re: QJs in LP...too weak?
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[ QUOTE ] Not only would a bet be approprite here, but I think it is manditory. Brad [/ QUOTE ] You have a gutshot to the nuts and 2 overcards Would you care to elaborate on that some? Would it be mandatory because i didn't raise preflop, or because of my position? I usually only witness hands like this after folding, and just realized I need to know how to handle it. Thanks, Ben [/ QUOTE ] On the flop you have a gutshot to the nuts and 2 overcards. Your hand is worth at least 6 outs, and you have an equity of around 25%. Against 7 (?) opponents, your equity edge is huge and you should bet/raise for value alone.
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#8
03-10-2005, 12:51 AM
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Re: QJs in LP...too weak?
Reasons to bet:
1) Its a big pot already, do what you can to take it down. 2) No one has shown any agression, so its quite possible your hand is actually best at this point. 3) Betting may clean up some of your overcard outs.
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