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Old 02-27-2005, 04:53 AM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Flopped top two on one tone board.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 ($578.7)
CO ($288.3)
Button ($525.1)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($307.5)</font>
BB ($140.7)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($444)</font>
UTG+1 ($179.8)
MP1 ($387.3)
MP2 ($32)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $4, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls $30.

Turn: ($110) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($110) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Final Pot: $210

No reads on SB. What do you think of this, on all (except for preflop) streets?
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:54 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

My gut feeling is that he raised in order to get a free card on the turn should he miss his flush. Which he did.

When he calls your river bet it confuses me pretty bad. Did he have A9?
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Old 02-27-2005, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

I think you have hero and villian confused?
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:41 PM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

Does anyone just call here and see what opponent does on a club/non club turn?
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:52 PM
DoomSlice DoomSlice is offline
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

No, he either has a club draw that you want him to pay for, a made flush that you want to figure out if he has, or he is afraid of a flush and is not putting much more in anyway.

Raise 'er up!
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Old 02-27-2005, 03:41 PM
joewatch joewatch is offline
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

On the flop, you raised with your 2-pair. Question is, what did you put villain on after your raise? I think you put him on something like AQ, AT, or semibluff with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]X, otherwise you would have folded. I think that if this was your read, you should have bet $50 at the turn. If you are called, then most likely you will showdown for free.

By checking the turn, you are showing weakness, possibly causing villain to put you on a semibluff flush draw. What would you have done if villain had bet $100 on the river instead of $50?
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Old 02-27-2005, 04:04 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

Looks like he has the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. You're actually giving him odds sort of with your re-raise, becuase its $30 to him in a $50 pot.

Unless vilian is pretty tricky, this looks like a classic missed draw bluff.
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Old 02-27-2005, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Flopped top two on one tone board.

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Does anyone just call here and see what opponent does on a club/non club turn?

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i do.

the only hands that call your raise are ones that beat you.
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