how would you have played this? 5/10 6max

Zygote · #1 02-24-2005, 11:57 AM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 15.70 BB

ProfLupin · #2 02-24-2005, 12:00 PM

I know it's hard to find a fold on the turn, but don't you think the odds of one of them holding the ace of hearts is pretty good?

STLantny · #3 02-24-2005, 12:08 PM

3 bet preflop.

Zygote · #4 02-24-2005, 12:10 PM

why? that makes no sense to me

MrBig30 · #5 02-24-2005, 12:13 PM

Well you have 14 outs on the turn and that would make it worth a call although risk of getting 3-bet (or 4-bet) is probably high. Problem is as noted by Prof Lupin, someone might have the Ah and many of the times you get a K, or even a Q its not going to be good. You probably have to discount your outs with like 50%.
IMO its a fold on the turn.

MrBig30 · #6 02-24-2005, 12:16 PM

I would never 3bet preflop here unless playing with total maniacs. The risk of domination is very real and you are out of position.

Chris Daddy Cool · #7 02-24-2005, 12:22 PM

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3 bet preflop.

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No.

Chris Daddy Cool · #8 02-24-2005, 12:25 PM

I would fold the turn.

Given that UTG and the button both came to life when the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] comes up makes it highly likely that one if not both have an ace in their hands, meaning the chances of them having the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is higher.

Zygote · #9 02-24-2005, 12:30 PM

looking back i think you are right. In the moment, though, it seemed like the right thing to do. Its unfortunate becasue 3bets is an expensive mistake.

thanks

ISF · #10 02-24-2005, 12:31 PM

I actually think that this is a rather easy turn fold. You are almost always behind here Getting 4:1, less if it gets threebet, and are likely drawing dead at least a third of the time.