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Old 02-23-2005, 03:47 AM
VBM VBM is offline
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Default terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

not sure if this hand might be interesting to anyone; turn and river are certainly debatable.

villain is unknown to me.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (7.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:48 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

This is fine, what FPS? I fold the river unless he has a note though.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:52 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

Bet the flop homie.

Brad
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

Fancy Play Syndrome.

Is it really fine? 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the turn, if i bet out &amp; Villain believes i've got my flush &amp; he holds a Q or a 2, he's getting 4.5:1 on a 5 to 6-outer to beat me...

or he gets check-raised (like i did) and we're both committed to the river...
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Old 02-23-2005, 04:02 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

He knows what it means - he's asking you where you think you exhibited it in the hand...

Do you really think he's folding either a Q or a 2 to a turn bet?

I bet the flop here.
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Old 02-23-2005, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

[ QUOTE ]
He knows what it means - he's asking you where you think you exhibited it in the hand...

Do you really think he's folding either a Q or a 2 to a turn bet?

I bet the flop here.

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Exactly. Bet the turn and go for 3-bets.

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Old 02-23-2005, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

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Do you really think he's folding either a Q or a 2 to a turn bet?

[/ QUOTE ] i think if he's thinking about his river odds he's more likely to fold if i bet out than if he's check-raised. also keeps him from checking behind if he's passive.

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I bet the flop here.

[/ QUOTE ] hmm...seems to be the consensus...especially in this case, now that i think about it, i definitely need to consider that.
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Old 02-23-2005, 06:04 AM
PokrLikeItsProse PokrLikeItsProse is offline
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Default Re: terminal FPS-case turns flush...but river double-pairs the board.

I've noticed that there are a decent number of players who would bet A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and a non-diamond like this, first betting the flop to try and steal after everyone checked, then betting again on the turn with the nut flush draw and a chance to take down the pot, then bluffing to represent the full house against what might be a flush. Of course, this player might also have a queen or a medium pocket pair.

I would actually consider semibluff check-raising the flop, depending on my reads of the other players at the table. I have a strong feeling that MP1 won't have any hand that contains a 2 and may even be bluffing, so you may take down the pot right there.
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