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Old 02-11-2005, 04:59 AM
Luzion Luzion is offline
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Default KQs, didnt hit the board at all, 1/2 full

Looking for general advice. I'm not sure if I should lean towards betting flops and the turn without hitting or not, after PF raising. In these types of situations, what would be the optimal strategy? Is it foolish to try to pick up the pot with only overcards on the flop and turn? THanks

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: KQs, didnt hit the board at all, 1/2 full

I've very rarely, and really just to break up my play of overcards with the standard bet/bet/cf line, bet out on the river, but I'll never say it's a winning play of mine. It's only been with AK, also. Just check/fold it on the river. Otherwise I play it the same.


err, yeah you're LP, check it through and be happy if you got it.
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:15 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: KQs, didnt hit the board at all, 1/2 full

Eh, hero is last to act on the river here.

I like the turn bet heads up, but the river is a definite check through. He isn't calling with a worse hand here enough to make this a value bet (it's not even close to enough).
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:56 AM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default Re: KQs, didnt hit the board at all, 1/2 full

I would check the turn and check/call the river
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:02 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: KQs, didnt hit the board at all, 1/2 full

There are millions of hands like this that have been posted. Betting the river has next to zero value because you will lose like 99% of the time that you are called and he won't be folding a better hand here often enough. This bet is more of a bluff then a value bet because A-high still might fold. So at least you have some bluff equity with this hand (unlike with AK or AQ), but not enough to make it profitable.


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