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JJ first hand $10+1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter
BB (t800) Hero (t800) UTG+1 (t800) UTG+2 (t800) MP1 (t800) MP2 (t800) MP3 (t800) CO (t800) Button (t800) SB (t800) Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t30</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t15, MP2 calls t15. Flop: (t132.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t100, SB folds. Turn: (t332.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP3 calls t200. River: (t732.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, MP3 calls t100. Final Pot: t932.50 Very first hand. I put the villain on two big cards... and a flush draw after that flop action. Is the river bet -EV? Will it only be called by a bigger pair? |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
Is the river bet -EV?
What do you do if he pushes all-in? Giving him the option back for such a small potential gain is the worst part of the bet, not that he might not have the range to call when behind. Edit: I suck, I thought he had already checked. Lori |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
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Giving him the option back for such a small potential gain is the worst part of the bet, not that he might not have the range to call when behind. [/ QUOTE ] So you consider this a check/fold situation? Should I have opted for check/fold on the turn? Honestly, I was ready to fold to a river raise. I'm sure that would have done loads for my table image. |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
So you consider this a check/fold situation? Should I have opted for check/fold on the turn?
See edit, and new reply above. I managed to not read two words in the correct order, from a total of two. Impressive really when you think about it. Lori |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
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I'm sure that would have done loads for my table image. [/ QUOTE ] You're being sarcastic right? Not that playing weak is a good thing in itself, but a weak table image early in the tourney is great. Any table image is good as long as you recognize it. |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
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[ QUOTE ] I'm sure that would have done loads for my table image. [/ QUOTE ] You're being sarcastic right? Not that playing weak is a good thing in itself, but a weak table image early in the tourney is great. Any table image is good as long as you recognize it. [/ QUOTE ] No, I'm not being sarcastic. I understand the concept you bring up -- recognizing and exploiting one's image -- but I'm hesitant to enjoy a weak-ish image after the first hand of the game. These players aren't thinking "wow, the weak guy check-raised me, I better fold." They're thinking, "I bet, he folds la la la, I have an ace." |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
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Edit: I suck, I thought he had already checked. [/ QUOTE ] How does this change your line? I still think I made a weak play after considering your pre-edit opinion. EDIT: ERRR NEVERMIND, REPLYING TOO FAST! |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1
With the call on the river, I don't have a clue on what he might have? I think your river bet was OK. I assume you were expecting a fold or a push as a result. Damn, what does a call mean? Did he have pocket 7s or something? Perhaps he had a pocket pair higher than 6s, and he assumed you were betting into the flush draw, thus the call.
I hope it wasn't 78 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]'s What did he have? |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1 (vs QQ INDEED)
Lorinda smells correctly: QQ.
I can think of two ways to improve this hand: 1) Fold pre-flop (YUCK) 2) Slow down on the turn (YUCK) 3) Acquire the power of ESP (TASTY!) |
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Re: JJ first hand $10+1 (vs QQ INDEED)
A good case of why 100 is a good bet here.
His hand is dubious enough that he doesn't want to raise you, but if you don't bet, he's likely to bet more than 100 and you're probably wise to call this more often than not. You've cost yourself 100 chips, but you've got to the showdown that might have cost you 1000 chips or so had you not seen. Lori |
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