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Old 02-04-2005, 09:57 PM
BadBatsuMaru BadBatsuMaru is offline
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Default Omaha 8 - how much do I suck?

So I decided to take a little break from the Hold 'Em. The first time I ever played Omaha was in a home game last week, and I thought maybe I'd give it a shot online. I was at the library and read the Omaha chapter in Phil Hellmuth's book Play Poker Like the Pros (a horrible book which teaches very little except how enormous Phil's ego is) and came home and jumped right into 2-tabling Omaha 8.


Party Poker (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
MP1 folds, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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BB bets [$1].
Hero calls [$1].
BB shows [ 6d, Jc, 7s, 4h ] a full house, Jacks full of sixes.
Hero shows [ Kh, 6h, Ah, 2h ] Royal Flush.
Hero wins $9.75 from the main pot with Royal Flush.
There was no qualifying low hand.


Anyway, I guess I found another thing the converter doesn't like, but I played the hand really badly. First I was thinking I've got a back-door straight, back-door flush, a pair, two overcards, and a back-door nut low, so I really don't want to fold. On the turn I improve, so I'm still thinking I've got 12 outs to a straight or flush and two sixes that might win it for me, so I call again. Then on the river I make the flush, but I'm thinking that if I raise on that board he might not call unless he has the boat, then he'd re-raise...

I wasn't thinking that holding 4 hearts cuts 2 of my flush outs, and of course I totally missed the fact that the flush I hit was the royal...

So, I guess I need to put a little more thought into this if I'm going to play Omaha now and then, but what's the recommended reading on it?

Phil's book has a chart of hands that I copied:


Premium Hands

1. A-A-2-3
2. A-A-2-x
3. A-A-3-x
4. A-2-3-4
5. A-2-3-x
6. A-2-K-K, A-2-Q-Q
7. A-3-4-5
8. A-A-4-5, A-A-x-x
9. A-2-Q-K, A-2-K-J, A-2-x-x
10. A-3-K-K

Strong hands

11. A-3-4-x
12. 2-3-4-5
13. J-Q-K-A
14. T-J-Q-K
15. J-Q-K-K
16. 9-T-J-Q
17. 2-3-4-x
18. Any four cards between T and A

That's about all I've been going by, limping almost every time except when I'm behind several callers with a really good hand.
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