Lame preflop question

Entity · #1 02-07-2005, 02:05 PM

You're in the SB with KJo. Two very loose limpers who have a tendency to be fit-or-fold postflop types and are easy to read postflop limp. The BB is one of the best players at the table.

Easy raise?

MercTec · #2 02-07-2005, 02:06 PM

Easy for me. Isolate against the bad players. Don't wanna play the best player post flop.

Rico Suave · #3 02-07-2005, 02:07 PM

Entity:

I would raise, given those conditions. But I think it is unusual for loose limpers to have a "fit or fold" mentality.....at least in my online experience.

--Rico

chief444 · #4 02-07-2005, 02:10 PM

Sure.

Entity · #5 02-07-2005, 02:13 PM

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Entity:

I would raise, given those conditions. But I think it is unusual for loose limpers to have a "fit or fold" mentality.....at least in my online experience.

--Rico

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I agree that it's an odd description for them to have, but these guys seem to have it. I've seem them limp, call a raise from me, and then fold on non-threatening flops several times so far.

car ramrod · #6 02-07-2005, 02:35 PM

I would raise, but say you got reraised by BB. According to your read would you auto fold, or would you call the bet.
If you call your K and J maybe tainted.

MercTec · #7 02-07-2005, 02:40 PM

If the limpers called the reraise, you're getting 11-1....easy call.

runa · #8 02-07-2005, 02:42 PM

How often are we expecting a 3-bet from the BB to shut the others out and isolate you with position and possibly make postflop uncomfortable?

PokerBob · #9 02-07-2005, 02:42 PM

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You're in the SB with KJo. Two very loose limpers who have a tendency to be fit-or-fold postflop types and are easy to read postflop limp. The BB is one of the best players at the table.

Easy raise?

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If it means that BB will scram unless he has a hand, I think a raise is good. You are probably ahead of the limpers, and you may well win with a flop bet if you miss.

Entity · #10 02-07-2005, 02:44 PM

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How often are we expecting a 3-bet from the BB to shut the others out and isolate you with position and possibly make postflop uncomfortable?

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Very rarely, because it's hard for him to justify 3-betting with a weak hand from the BB when he knows my raising standards OOP are tighter than raising from the Button. The mere fact that I'm questioning raising KJo should show how much less often he'll try to re-isolate me here, I think.

Rob