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Old 02-05-2005, 03:36 AM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default QJs hand

How bad is the coldcall prelflop? After that its pretty standard right?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (13 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (22.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 25.50 BB
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Old 02-05-2005, 03:38 AM
James282 James282 is offline
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Default Re: QJs hand

This is a boring hand. Preflop is fine.
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Old 02-05-2005, 04:16 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: QJs hand

THe preflop call is a bit loose for the average 2/4 game (but probably only slightly -EV; possibly even slightly +EV for an EXPERT player). The rest of the hand looks very good.
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Old 02-05-2005, 04:32 AM
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PF is fine.
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Old 02-05-2005, 05:58 AM
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Nediam,

You're nuts. Not calling here would be a farily sizable mistake, even if you don't play that well postflop.

This hand looks very standard to me.
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Old 02-05-2005, 03:20 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default Re: QJs hand

The only thing I was unsure about was the PF call, I'm just starting to get into limit again, so its hands like this that give me trouble. A quick follow up question, what do I do if a 2 or 3 hits on the river?
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Old 02-05-2005, 04:13 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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I keep on looking at my SSH chart but I don't see where it says i can cold call in middle position in a tight game with QJs regardless of the number of people in the hand.... thats why I said what I said.
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Old 02-05-2005, 04:22 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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You play it the same... you hand will still be good far more times than somebody will have outdrawn you there.
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Old 02-05-2005, 04:26 PM
PhatPots PhatPots is offline
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Yes bad preflop call. But the rest you played good


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Old 02-05-2005, 04:31 PM
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Who said anything about this being a tight game??
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