The River

BottlesOf · #1 01-22-2005, 10:56 PM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (10.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero ??????????

Alobar · #2 01-22-2005, 11:50 PM

I don't cap the flop. I think it will kill your action on the later streets.

he plaid the flop like he had 2 pair, now he bets into you on the river. If all he has now is 3 jacks, would he really have 3 bet the flop with middle pair? (maybe a real aggro with QJ I guess would, but still, the point remains). A raise seems a bit to aggresive. Just call

scrub · #3 01-23-2005, 12:11 AM

Flop cap seems strange to me, too.

This is one of those situations where I probably just call and make a note--very few people mix up their play in this spot.

scrub

Gatts · #4 01-23-2005, 12:29 AM

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I don't cap the flop. I think it will kill your action on the later streets.

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JBB also has the very counterfeitable nuts. Board pairs or an A hits, it could suck. Pump the pot when you got it, you might even be able to raise the turn against top two.

Gotta call the river though.

scrub · #5 01-23-2005, 12:32 AM

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Gotta call the river though.

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I hope you don't mean you think JBB was considering a fold...

scrub

Alobar · #6 01-23-2005, 01:07 AM

yeah it could suck, but any hand could always bring a card that could suck. Also no player with half a brain is going to bet into a PFR who capped the flop on THAT board with top 2 pair.

Gatts · #7 01-23-2005, 01:24 AM

Not at all, saying can't raise.

scrub · #8 01-23-2005, 01:36 AM

Good...[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

scrub

PassiveCaller · #9 01-23-2005, 01:38 AM

I think capping accomplishes a lot more damaging things like making UTG check the turn, and getting the BB to fold.

Very counterfeitable nuts ? man.. This is a good hand. This seems like weak tight thinking to me. We have to be willing to go for more value in this situation.

Gatts · #10 01-23-2005, 01:42 AM

I dunno, I haven't logged any 5/10 hands so I'll have to take your word that KJ won't lead. I just think there're are good amount of scare cards that either Villain won't lead, you won't raise, or you end up chopping, about 1/4 of the deck. Villan might also have something like a QT or KQ and check/call the turn.

I guess if villain will never lead the turn after a cap unless he fills, calling the 3-bet is the right play.

Edit: whoops, I didn't see BB in the hand. I like the cap less now.