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Old 01-30-2005, 11:46 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default I think this article really screwed up my game

cuz now I find myself checking the turn, a lot.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_maga...amp;m_id=65551

Anyone else having this problem?
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:56 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

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recent $80-$160 game

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The small blind is a tough player

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Are you sure you are in this game? I'm guessing you're not. If you're not, don't follow this advice. Bet the turn in a situation that he describes every time. Most opponents in my game ($2/4 to $5/10) would probably call down A hi here or any pair. In his game, his opponent would "probably fold JJ", that's not happening at $2/4 to $5/10.

Ignore his advice, unless you find yourself sitting down at a $80/160 game.
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

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recent $80-$160 game

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The small blind is a tough player

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Are you sure you are in this game? I'm guessing you're not. If you're not, don't follow this advice. Bet the turn in a situation that he describes every time. Most opponents in my game ($2/4 to $5/10) would probably call down A hi here or any pair. In his game, his opponent would "probably fold JJ", that's not happening at $2/4 to $5/10.

Ignore his advice, unless you find yourself sitting down at a $80/160 game.

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i 2nd that
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:39 AM
ZeeBee ZeeBee is offline
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

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Most opponents in my game ($2/4 to $5/10) would probably call down A hi here or any pair. In his game, his opponent would "probably fold JJ", that's not happening at $2/4 to $5/10.

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On the other hand, a small-blind reraise in my 2/4 game is unlikely to be some clever steal-reraise. Depending on the his raising standards the SB normally will have a big pair or AK in my game.

I would base my play strongly on the SBs potential range of hands, and generally speaking I would be quite fearful of being behind.

ZB
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

This guy is wrong. He says if you check the turn and He hits his set, you lose one bet. You lose the whole pot.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:49 AM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

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Ignore his advice, unless you find yourself sitting down at a $80/160 game.

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Thank you.
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

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Ignore his advice, unless you find yourself sitting down at a $80/160 game.

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Thank you.

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Or, unless you hope to become a regular at that game eventually.
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:14 PM
bwana devil bwana devil is offline
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

I think this article advises to play way too passively. The SB isolates the hero and the hero gets a great flop. Top Pair, no flush, no straight draw. Villian starts checking and now the author advocates checking as well because the pot is small? the pot is small because hero is playing passively.

I can't advocate checking the turn at $80/160 or $.50/1
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

Against the type of player the article is describing, this play isn't so bad. I've used it when I find myself heads up against a 2+2er in a similar situation b/c they are likely to fold when behind and checkraise when ahead.

Against your normal 2/4 or 3/6 opponent, checking the turn is a huge mistake b/c they will call anyway.
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: I think this article really screwed up my game

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This guy is wrong. He says if you check the turn and He hits his set, you lose one bet. You lose the whole pot.

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Read it again, starting with "Let’s look at the math in the pocket jacks case..."
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