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Old 01-24-2005, 10:40 AM
shoeman shoeman is offline
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Default Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

Here are some early round SNG decisions I've come across lately. What are everybody's thoughts on calling/folding these hands?? Is it too early to make these calls? No real reads on any of the players yet?


Party Poker $10+1 NL tournament.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

CO (t730)
Button (t730)
SB (t855)
BB (t1010)
UTG (t805)
UTG+1 (t760)
Hero (t775)
MP1 (t730)
MP2 (t755)
MP3 (t850)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t850. MP3 is all-in. </font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds. Hero ??



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

CO (t730)
Button (t730)
SB (t855)
BB (t1010)
UTG (t805)
UTG+1 (t760)
Hero (t775)
MP1 (t730)
MP2 (t755)
MP3 (t850)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG call t30</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125.</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB calls t125.</font> <font color="#CC3333"> UTG calls t95. </font>

Flop: (t180) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks. <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200.</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t985. BB is all-in.</font>, UTG folds. Hero ??
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Old 01-24-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

At the 10s, Im getting my money in with QQ and TPTK. You will see the Villians show down worse hands a majority of the time.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

What percentage of the time do you think I'm ahead here? Does this justify a call considering a)it is early and b)if I lose, I am knocked out. If I double, I'm still not guaranteed to finish in the money.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

The main reason you get your chips in here is that at the 10s you will be ahead most of the time. They will go all-in with TP and crap kicker. And they will push preflop with a wide range of hands.

In Hand #1
If he shows you AA or KK just say nice hand and start another one.

In Hand #2
If he hit his set than good for him and start another one.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

Raise more preflop. 200 is fine, 300 if you want to be safe.

Hand #1 is an easy call here. With your raise and with no read, he probably thinks you have a weak ace and wants to take it down with a small/medium pair (fools at 10's love overvaluing those medium pairs). The only hands you really have to worry about are AA/KK/AK, which have a minimum/medium-sized raise associated with them.

Hand 2 is a not-so-easy call since you might be up against K6 or K2. Personally I would lay it down here since it's so early in the tournament and outplay them later.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

You are going to see AK, KQ, KJ, and KT most of the time. I would never lay this down at the 10s. I would be more concerned if an A hit the flop instead of a K. A2 and A6 are more likely holdings. You are behind a set but most will slowplay sets. I think you are ahead on this one and need to play it aggressively.
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

hand 1 - call you're ahead so often at the 10s it's not even funny. you may see this move from any AK-AJ through smaller pockets down to 77.

hand 2 - call - people slow play sets, even 2 pair at this level. you're probably looking at KQ/KJ/KT here.

at the 10s i think these calls are definitely +ev
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Early level SNG decisions. Fold or Call?

Not that this means a whole lot, but I've had hand 2 exactly a number of times and i have yet to lose. Most of the time the other guy has KQ-KT. I think it is a definite call.
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