Please help with this hand

[1C5]

Not sure if I played this how you would have considering everything and the size of the stacks. Please let me know, thanks.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

Button (t1565)
Hero (t850)
BB (t775)
UTG (t4670)
MP (t140)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, Button calls t200, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t600) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t600) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, BB folds, Button calls t200.

River: (t1000) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, Hero calls t250 (All-In).

Final Pot: t1950

[ChrisV]

Push preflop.

[SoCalPat]

Does anyone advocate folding here? You've got two stacks smaller than you that could be all-in on the blinds before you can bust out likewise. Or is this a case of win-or-bust and to hell with finishing 3rd?

[Pokerscott]

I agree. fold pre flop.

Save your chips until you are not in 3rd and have to make a move.

more times than not your patience will pay off with a 3rd and you can then try for the crummy coin flips [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[The Yugoslavian]

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Push preflop.

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I'd imagine Chris' advice here is buyin dependent. Chris plays 215s I believe mainly and there you probably have more FE than lets say a 22 buyin.

Sooooooooooooo, what buyin were you in IC5?

Yugoslav

[pshreck]

Fold preflop. Honestly though, its close.

If I have A8 or higher here I push. Never limp here though.

Did the button have some stupid hand like KJ?

[ChrisV]

It isn't all about FE. There's 500 in the pot, my stack is only 750, and from what I can see I rate to have the best hand. It would be nice to have them fold but I'll take an allin vs QTs or whatever as well.

[pshreck]

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It isn't all about FE. There's 500 in the pot, my stack is only 750, and from what I can see I rate to have the best hand. It would be nice to have them fold but I'll take an allin vs QTs or whatever as well.

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A4 is so dangerous here though for two reasons....

the possible dominated ace, where hes gonna call just about every time,

if hes got a pp (other than 33 or 22), you are also in a bad spot. You on the other hand will never have him dominated.

Things change when your kicker goes up, or you are less likely to have a dominated hand. If you had KJ here I would be much more comfortable with that and just push it.

[slydeni]

this def. is on the fence. The decision, I agree, is to all in or fold it. I believe the final decision here will be made based on your readds of the players. If the players have been exceptionally tight...we might wanna push here. If they are gamblers...then we may want to wait a bit for a better gamble. Its tough.

so...what did the winner have?

sly

[ChrisV]

The button almost certainly does not have a pp or better ace because he limped. If the BB shows up with one, that's life and I'll try to score my 30% or 25% chance.