ATs with interesting river

Wario · #1 01-18-2005, 05:04 PM

What's the best river line here? Also should I 3-bet the flop instead of the stop and go?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP3 raises, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Thanks.

jay1313 · #2 01-18-2005, 05:06 PM

I agree with call down line, the betting sure looks like 2 pair or a set. Hopefully it was the 2 pair and you out kicked him with your T.

tiltaholic · #3 01-18-2005, 05:08 PM

i don't mind the flop call.
since it's heads up, i am partial to the turn check-raise semibluff. then i lead the river...
but i don't know what's better...

__Q__ · #4 01-18-2005, 05:10 PM

with 4 to a flush, 3 bet the turn

Shillx · #5 01-18-2005, 05:11 PM

Your hand isn't quite good enough for the planned turn check/raise IMO (on the flop). I just 3-bet the flop and see where it takes me.

I don't mind the stop and go given the setup, but your hand is probably too strong for this play. The stop and go is usually done with a weaker hand that can fold if you get raised again on the turn.

The turn card is very interesting. Since you didn't 3-bet the flop, I would check/raise the turn (right out of HEPFAP). You have a very very good hand here.

Brad

Wario · #6 01-18-2005, 05:11 PM

Suppose I should explain some more.

I planned on betting almost any turn card and folding to a raise unless that card improved my hand. Obviously the heart improved it so I saw the river, do you think my hand is too good here to check/call?

Shillx · #7 01-18-2005, 05:16 PM

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Suppose I should explain some more.

I planned on betting almost any turn card and folding to a raise unless that card improved my hand. Obviously the heart improved it so I saw the river, do you think my hand is too good here to check/call?

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This is nonsense dude. You are not folding this hand. If the guy was a real tight limper (he will limp with AK/AQ), then you should not raise ATs preflop.

Brad

Wario · #8 01-18-2005, 05:19 PM

I was more worried about a set or two pair. I figured if he raised my turn bet he must have TPGK beat.

How far off am I? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Shillx · #9 01-18-2005, 05:21 PM

Depending on the villian's two pair, you have a decent chance of outdrawing him. You only have 3 outs against AK. Against two small pair, you have 8 outs!

Brad

Wario · #10 01-18-2005, 05:28 PM

OK, so 3-bet the flop and save the stop and go stuff for weak hands I can safely fold to a raise right?

Given the way I played it what's your river line?