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Old 11-07-2004, 02:32 PM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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This hand was a while ago so my recollection is a little hazy. Me and opponent have stacks of 1.2k, 5/10 NL, I raise to $40, folded to him in BB he raises to $110 I call. (I have QQ). Flop is AQ5o, he bets $50. I got a read that he had a set of aces and I was pretty sure, if it wasn't that it was AK. What is your plan for the rest of this hand?
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Old 11-07-2004, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: fearing set over set

Raise the flop, check the turn and call a bet on the river. The worse thing you can do is fear set over set in nl.
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Old 11-07-2004, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: fearing set over set

Bruiser,

What made you so confident in your read? I guess the smallish, I want a call, preflop raise must have had something to do with it. Also, what did you make of the underbet on the flop? Isn't that TOO obvious of a trap? With what other hands would he only bet $50 with into a $225 pot? (KK ??)

Very interesting hand and read. Do you have any other information on your opponent?
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Old 11-07-2004, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: fearing set over set

235 in the pot and 990 left? my plan is to go broke. if he is really willing to underbet the whole way and you are very sure there is no other hand he will play this way you can probably save a little money on the hand.

as you know there are a lot more combinations of AK than there are of AA, 10:3 I believe.

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Old 11-07-2004, 02:59 PM
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come on brusier, fearing set over set with 120BB and no sick read? you are better than that. the plan should be to figure out how to get your whole stack in the center.
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Old 11-08-2004, 02:41 AM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Default Re: fearing set over set

Here we go, went back into my PT database and found it:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed)

UTG ($1037.75)
Hero ($1480.75)
CO ($967)
Button ($126.50)
SB ($1114.25)
BB ($1310)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $15.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, CO (poster) folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to $120</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $70.

Flop: ($265) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets $20</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $200</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to $380</font>, Hero calls $180.

Turn: ($1025) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets $250</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $660</font>, SB calls $364.25 (All-In).

River: ($2299.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2299.25

On the flop I thought he had AA but could have AK and was afraid of getting to showdown without stacking him if he had AK. As the hand went on I got progressively surer that he had AA. In retrospect, maybe it's better to just call because he'll value bet AK himself. As far as you guys analyzing this hand I'm asking you to accept my read that he has AA or AK and then suggest a line of play from there.
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Old 11-08-2004, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: fearing set over set

Also these bet sizes and the fact that the board is suited shows some more of how I got my read.
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Old 11-08-2004, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: fearing set over set

if you think he has AA fold, if you think he has AK raise, build a pot. too many cards could fall on the turn that might kill your action.
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:41 AM
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Obviously. I'm not sure which one he has though, so what plan should I adopt?
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: fearing set over set

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Obviously. I'm not sure which one he has though, so what plan should I adopt?

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I like the one you took....you have position on him, and stacks are small enough to get it in on the turn...no reason to re-re-raise the flop, you might let him get away from AK too easily....let him lead into you on the turn and then push - just like it happened.....sorry if he showed you aces....
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