maximizing value - flopped quads ( low content )

[mr pink]

hero is dealt 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in mp

1 limper, hero calls, button calls, blinds check.

flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] = [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

checked through.

turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

small blind bets, big blind folds, limper folds, hero calls, button raises = [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img], small blind calls, hero 3-bets, button calls, small blind calls.

river: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] - what a card

small blind checks, hero bets, button raises = [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img], sb folds, hero 3-bets, button caps = [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].


results:
<font color="white"> hero has 4 of a kind (4 deuces) -- button has full house (nines full over deuces) </font> = [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[zuluking]

You could have made alot more money on this hand. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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[mr pink]

how do you figure that

[zuluking]

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how do you figure that

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=begin

[mr pink]

ummm... do you know how to read?

[mr pink]

if you are saying that i shouldnt have slow played this on the flop, you should get your head checked.

[Hack]

Ok I'll get my head examined. I don't slowplay this on the flop. Most microplayers are uber fish and they'll call you no matter what, so you might as well have gotten them to pay you on the flop as well.

[mr pink]

reasons for the slowplay:

1. the pot is small
2. i dont care about giving free cards
3. board isnt very friendly to draws
4. field is relatively small
5. i dont want them to fold

[Hack]

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reasons for the slowplay:

1. the pot is small
2. i dont care about giving free cards
3. board isnt very friendly to draws
4. field is relatively small
5. i dont want them to fold

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reasons to not slowplay:

1) make the pot bigger(this has another advantage too, it gives fish better pot odds to chase, they don't know they're drawing almost dead)

2) I wouldn't care about giving free cards either, but do you like giving away money? Because that's what you're doing.

3) that's true that it's not friendly to draws, but since when has that ever stopped a micro player from chasing cards.

4) it's small, yeah, which means that the uber fish will always think you're trying to bluff them out of their pot and theyll stick around.

5) Of course you don't want them to fold, and they likely won't, so collect the bets now.

Let me tell you the truth, mr. pink. 80%+ of micro/small stakes players are absolute idiot fish. You gain nothing by slowplaying a monster like this. I might recommend it at a game where your opponents are better but at these games they are so fishy and so incredibly stupid that you want to make them pay to stay in the hand.

Your opponent with the single 9 most likely would have called the flop, and then you could have made more on the turn as well if you had played it more aggressively.

You gain almost nothing by playing this hand slickly. Quads don't come along often, so don't play them for cheap.

[mr pink]

i disagree. the amount of equity that i give up on the flop check is easily made up by someone making a second best hand here. i could have cost myself a lot more bets by betting the flop and folding the out the field. i'm only up against 4 opponents - 2 of which are the blinds, there werent any raises preflop and no one had shown any aggression up to the point the action was on me. there is no reason to think they'd call a bet with all those rags out there. a bet right there could have easily taken it down which would have really sucked.